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Old 20 June 2008, 09:52   #1
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Wrangler for towing

Thinking of getting a wrangler (1998-2001 ish) as a second car for towing purposes.

Plenty of grunt with the 4L engine, not too worried about the fuel as I'll only be doing minimal miles and it will also be a bit of fun in the summer with the roof down.

Depreciation seems pretty minimal if you pick up a 7-10 year old model. Wouldn't want to go newer than 2001 due to the tax implications!

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They do have plenty of power, and they're loads of fun by themselves! But that short wheel base can be downright TERRIFYING to tow with.

I won't do it again.
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Is the wheel base that much less than a defender 90? I'd only be towing a tonne max.
Had a look on the net and they are rated upto 1900kgs which does seem on the high side, nearly 400kgs over kerb weight so figured a tonne would be easy....maybe i'm wrong
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I had a Wrangler 4L manual,,,,,as already said fantastic fun! but in the wet, way too much power for slippery roads..>:O(
but still, a great jeep.
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Is the wheel base that much less than a defender 90? I'd only be towing a tonne max.
Had a look on the net and they are rated upto 1900kgs which does seem on the high side, nearly 400kgs over kerb weight so figured a tonne would be easy....maybe i'm wrong
I've never played with a Defender but I can't imagine anything with a shorter wheel base than a wrangler. LoL!

I towed a small camper trailer that weighed in at 2700Lb's or so. Went around a turn and a guy in oncoming lanes ran his red light to turn in front of me. I hit the brakes and the trailer pushed right on through pointing me back in the direction I came from. Bystanders said it looked like I was going over on my side, but I don't remember that.
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Guy I work with tows his hard boat (about 1500ks) with his Wrangler, no problems
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The wrangler's wheelbase is actually 3 inches longer than a defender 90.
Lugnut, did the trailer have brakes?!

Lots of folks on here seem to think the 4L is just too powerful, maybe the 2.5 would be a better and cheaper bet!
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The wrangler's wheelbase is actually 3 inches longer than a defender 90.
Lugnut, did the trailer have brakes?!

Lots of folks on here seem to think the 4L is just too powerful, maybe the 2.5 would be a better and cheaper bet!
Actually it's the same - the Defender is also 93".

I would much rather tow with a longer wheelbase - Defender 110 is much better than the 90.

Land Rovers are rated to 3500kg so a much higher safety limit.

If you are only towing a ton I wouldn't worry.

Remember they are on leaf springs - Land Rover ditched them in 1983. They don't do much for roadholding or ride comfort. Also only part time 4x4 - in RWD most of the time.
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I've never played with a Defender but I can't imagine anything with a shorter wheel base than a wrangler. LoL!
The little suzuki SJ has an 80" wheelbase as did the very early Land Rovers - great off road - crap on it!!!
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Didn't the post 96 Wranglers, when they went from square to round lights have coil springs?
Sure I read that on the net somewhere but may be wrong....
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Maybe I'm thinking of the frontera, didn't that get coils in 1996...???
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I know the later ones did but not sure what year they came.

Just found this

http://www.allpar.com/model/cj/specs.html

looks like it was 1997 but you better check - it may be different for different countries.
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Have had some fun with our Wrangler Not much towing oh only the odd Landrover out of the mud Sorry Codders couldnt resist that one.This one has coils and a bored out throttle body
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The wrangler's wheelbase is actually 3 inches longer than a defender 90.
Lugnut, did the trailer have brakes?!

Lots of folks on here seem to think the 4L is just too powerful, maybe the 2.5 would be a better and cheaper bet!
If it's cheap and MPG isn't an issue why not buy the 4ltr. How can it be too powerful? Unless the driver has a nerve issue with the right foot.
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4 litre it is then!!
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No such thing as "too much power" lol! But some have feet that are heavier on the pedals than others

Yes the trailer I was towing had brakes. That was the worst situation I've pesonaly had but I've seen others with short wheel base vehicles. I'm not saying it's not possible, just that I MUCH prefer a longer wheelbase for towing.

Wranglers here in the US have coil springs as of 1996. Not sure about your side of the pond.
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No such thing as "too much power" lol! But some have feet that are heavier on the pedals than others

Yes the trailer I was towing had brakes. That was the worst situation I've pesonaly had but I've seen others with short wheel base vehicles. I'm not saying it's not possible, just that I MUCH prefer a longer wheelbase for towing.

Wranglers here in the US have coil springs as of 1996. Not sure about your side of the pond.
Yeah, LWB is preferable, but Markyboyo and I live in the same area. We barely hit a decent stretch of road between home and the water. A tractor would almost do the trick.
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Have had some fun with our Wrangler Not much towing oh only the odd Landrover out of the mud Sorry Codders couldnt resist that one.This one has coils and a bored out throttle body
The Wrangler is great off road as is the Suzuki Jeep - unfortunately they are crap on road!!!
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The Wrangler is great off road as is the Suzuki Jeep - unfortunately they are crap on road!!!
As is a Defender.
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