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Old 08 May 2009, 11:17   #1
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What car is this?

Saw two of these cars together with body covers on today travelling north M3 from Southampton, no idea what they are but obviously been out on test.
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Old 08 May 2009, 11:27   #2
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Old 08 May 2009, 11:40   #3
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Bloody hell thats well disguised!!!
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I'm not going to buy a new car, but put silly body panels over my old Rover so it looks like cutting edge technology
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no idea what they are
It's the new XJ...styling reveal in a couple of months time; on general sale early next year. The 3 litre diesel engine is the one as just launched in the facelifted Discovery...up from the current 2.7litre - more power and enough torque to rival the QE2
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Diesel tech is coming on a huge way now Audis latest V12 Q7 with twin turbo is awesome .. shame it costs about 100K and looks like a plug IMVHO
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Is it though? Some of these latest diesels aren't too good on fuel in the real world!!!
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Is it though? Some of these latest diesels aren't too good on fuel in the real world!!!
The V10 Toerag is supposed to be juicy. But then, we're a brainwashed into buying diesel 4x4's. Unleaded is cheaper and there's little difference in mpg with many.
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Is it though? Some of these latest diesels aren't too good on fuel in the real world!!!
Yeah but compared to petrols they are gaining massive power outputs .. ok so the engines are larger and heavier, but as the use of alloys in engines grows.. they are catching up very quickly

Didnt JCB sposor some diesel record recently ?
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Is it though? Some of these latest diesels aren't too good on fuel in the real world!!!
tell me about it my A4 2.5tdi is only doing 33mpg avrage and 39 on a run to london and back driving like a granny....
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tell me about it my A4 2.5tdi is only doing 33mpg avrage and 39 on a run to london and back driving like a granny....
That's not right. My Father had that engine in a Hi-Top camper and could squeeze 42mpg out of it.
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i would agree.... oh hold on it is an auto and a quattro

it is what the rest get on the audi forum say they get too...

the campers 2.5 is a 5 pot the A4 is a V6 as an aside.
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tell me about it my A4 2.5tdi is only doing 33mpg avrage and 39 on a run to london and back driving like a granny....
My Rover 420 gets 48mpg no matter how it's driven. I managed to get a Renault Laguna 175bhp down to 22mpg.

Yes diesels are getting close to petrol power outputs - but you don't get something for nothing and if you use 300hp you are going to pay for it no matter what fuel it is!!!
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i would agree.... oh hold on it is an auto and a quattro
erm yesss ..... that counts for a lot
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Hehehe well the way I look at it is

RS2 = 17mpg
A4 1.9tdi quattro = 50+easy
A4 2.5tdi = 33

so you have to compromise at some point no points for guessing the 0-60 for each is directly the reverse of the mpg
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Its a shame all the new tdi's have such a narrow rev range if you drop out of it you get no power
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Its a shame all the new tdi's have such a narrow rev range if you drop out of it you get no power
I hired a Vectra 150bhp and it had a very nice spread of power. The Renault was 175bhp and was awful - it would torque steer at 95mph on the motorway but my Discovery 300tdi was quicker at roundabouts. The Renault would have been a nightmare to tow with.

The Vectra - although 25bhp less was so much more usable. The Renault was fun overtaking on fast B roads though!!!
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Its a shame all the new tdi's have such a narrow rev range if you drop out of it you get no power
i have found a tdi hooked up to an auto box and quattro there is no issue. it dose not matter what or where you are, just. "press and go" wet roundabouts are not even noticed.

FWD as a rule are for shoping cars.
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i have found a tdi hooked up to an auto box and quattro there is no issue. it dose not matter what or where you are, just. "press and go" wet roundabouts are not even noticed.

FWD as a rule are for shoping cars.
My S6 Quattro handling was awesome, wet or dry,.. it had phenomonal grip on factory 255's
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Is it though? Some of these latest diesels aren't too good on fuel in the real world!!!
Here's some of our recent family vehicles: RR (BMW) petrol V8...12mpg RR (BMW) diesel...25mpg. Freelander 2.2 diesel...35mpg. C-Max 1.6 diesel...50mpg. Fiesta 1.4 diesel 55mpg.

Those diesels sound ok to me...
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