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Old 12 October 2009, 10:04   #31
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Old 19 October 2009, 16:39   #32
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re towing auto v manual,s

hi

having towed a boat(from 4 to 7 mts) for about 30 year,s
i now have a jeep grand cherokee auto diesel with low box 3.0 CRD..

my last car was a x trail( manual) but i missed the low box when on the slip way but was good on fuel on the motorway towing about 36/40 mpg.but having had to slip the clutch a bit i missed a low box

with the jeep i get arount 28/30mpg and have more power 4 long motorway hills..

its a compramise between low box 4x4 or no low box and better fuel consumption..

i think automatic diesel 4x4 with low box is best after all you dont want to get stuck when the tide is comming in

also i think auto is best 4 towing but its personal choice,
if u are towing a small rib then the x trail is not bad (even with no low box)but if a large rib 6 mts+ i think u need a big 4x4 and dont forget all the kit u take, i go diving a lot so need a large 4x4

at the end of the day it up to u

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Old 20 October 2009, 10:03   #33
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Steve, will have to get a load of northern monkeys together.

Going slightly off topic what are these 4X4's like that engage the 4X4 on demand? My mates got a Honda something or other and it has this, think the 4x4 comes in when the wheels loose traction.
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Old 26 October 2009, 16:26   #34
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Going slightly off topic what are these 4X4's like that engage the 4X4 on demand? My mates got a Honda something or other and it has this, think the 4x4 comes in when the wheels loose traction.
I've got it on my Hyundai - I've never noticed it as you can 'lock in' 4wd with a button - anytime I think I may need 4wd its already on - it cuts out gradually between 18 & 25 mph once you get going.

Works for me as I know I am not going 'offroad' and the worse I will normally see if a wet , slippery slip way, but can allow me to get 40mpg if I drive sensibly on the m'way ( and doesn't shag my tyres on the road - 35,000 miles on 1 set ! )
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Old 27 October 2009, 06:56   #35
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My Volvo switches its 4wd system in when the fronts slip. Apparently. The shallow gradient slip I use in hamble doesn't really tax the car at all. Doesn't have a low ratio box.

I do like the auto for use on the slip. Gently squeeze the throttle until you start moving. No clutch slipping and working out when to let off the handbrake.
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Old 27 October 2009, 16:29   #36
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Not sure about all cars, but the Honda and other such modern school run 4x4's don't have a very high towing capacity. My 2WD audi a3 can tow more according to the hadnbook.

Nothing beats a clapped out old Jeep Cherokee 4l auto. 3.3 tonnes tow limit, and so light at the back it'd probably float if the tide came in.
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Old 27 October 2009, 17:30   #37
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Going slightly off topic what are these 4X4's like that engage the 4X4 on demand? My mates got a Honda something or other and it has this, think the 4x4 comes in when the wheels loose traction.
Thats what the Freelanders do thorugh the viscous coupling isn't it?
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Old 29 October 2009, 07:33   #38
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Looks like the current freelander has an "electronic" centre coupling not a viscous coupling:

http://www.landrover.co.uk/gb/en/veh...technology.htm

My Volvo uses a Haldex coupling which is also electronic.

Transverse engine Audis also use Haldex.

Viscous coupling is permanent 4WD with the most torque sent to the axle that has most grip. Completely mechanical. Longitudinal engine Audis (Like my old 2000/X V6 S4) use this.
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Audi Q7 3.0tdi, stick it in D & the quattro does the rest. It will go anywhere.
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Old 01 November 2009, 08:52   #40
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My 20 year old manual Pajero will go anywhere too. I just start the engine and the driver does the rest
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