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Old 20 January 2009, 17:42   #21
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Most of the people driving without insurance are also driving around on false plates or in foreign cars that don't get caught anyway - this move will do NOTHING to stop it!!!
Fair enough comment, it won't stop those drivers, but there will be ongoing research into software that recognises the make and model and colour of a car and cross refrences it to the DVLA database in conjunction with ANPR so unless the false plates are on an identical car that will catch them out,

I really think youre crediting some of these uninsured drivers with too much inteligence, lets face it theres probably a rather skint postman in portsmouth driving around in an uninsured car because all his money was scammed off him, wouldnt even think of changing the plates and he wont be the only one
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I can assure you that I'm far from perfect, but I am quite capable of keeping all my paperwork for motor vehicles in order.
'til you don't....
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Codprawn "Unisured drivers costing us £30 a year? A drop in the ocean "

With two cars and a bike in our household , that's £90 !
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With two cars and a bike in our household , that's £90 !
I think you'll find it's also not true about the £30.

The quoted £30 is I believe what's paid by your insurance company into the Motor Insurers Bureau.I'd bet you'll find that won't change if there's no uninsured drivers.
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£30 or £90 pales into insignificance against a serious injury or fatality , especially if it's a " bread winner "
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What if your old forgetful and....then you may rely on the reminder to jog your memory to do it all the old fashioned way.
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Old 20 January 2009, 18:34   #27
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£30 or £90 pales into insignificance against a serious injury or fatality , especially if it's a " bread winner "
But it negates the argument of it costing you 30 quid if it's going to cost you 30 quid anyway.
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'til you don't....
When I'm not capable of keeping my paperwork in order, then it'll be time to stop driving!
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Old 20 January 2009, 18:41   #29
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When I'm not capable of keeping my paperwork in order, then it'll be time to stop driving!
Wouldnt be ironic though if the time you realise you cant keep your paper in order is when you get fined for no insurance
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The problm is, DVLA are very lax about sending out SORN reminders. They seem to prefer to send out on the spot fines instead,a month after the SORN expires. It's not like you've got a 'sorn disc' as a reminder.
Correct, I was restoring an old vintage tractor, and didnt renew the licence as it was in my workshop for over 2 years..... in bits, then I got fined automagicly Best thing is .. the vintage tax disc is free anyway
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Correct, I was restoring an old vintage tractor, and didnt renew the licence as it was in my workshop for over 2 years..... in bits, then I got fined automagicly Best thing is .. the vintage tax disc is free anyway
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Funnily enough, when we forgot to renew a sorn document because some stuff was lost during a move 3 months before-even though we updated vehicle documents-DVLA didn't send a sorn reminder even though when SORN was first set up it was promised. They decided to send a fine as first contact and bleated on about how it wasn't their legal responsibility to send reminders.

Wait til they start issuing 6 points automatically along with the fine and tell you that they don't have any legal duty to remind you...
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£30 or £90 pales into insignificance against a serious injury or fatality , especially if it's a " bread winner "
I agree entirely but it does sound a bit like another stealth tax on innocent victims if it was a serious attempt to rid the roads of uninsured drivers then it would be acceptable. The report was in the Torygraph
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i got done for failing to renew a sorn, but when i blew up about it they said that they didn't need to send reminders, when i pionted out that i have an old car, van and tractor that haven't been sorned for 10 years they said those didn't count, what the f!"$^ going on do they make it up as they go along
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