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Old 07 January 2011, 15:15   #1
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Real long shot this, but if anyone can help I would be immensely grateful. I am trying to get 4 new tyres for the Panzerwaggen, sorry Mk1 Audi Allroad. Unlike some of you guys on here the closest I gets to offroad is some of the south coast slips But it is a good tow car. So I am looking for some non-aggresive tyres to give a good ride and keep the noise down. Currently I have got Pirelli P6 Allroads on there, which grip OK for what I do, and give a reasonable ride and stability. But boy, do they wear badly Top of the list for the replacements are General Grabber UHP's, but I cannot get any despite hours on't tinternet. Also looked at Goodyear Wrangler F1's, but apart from one place that quoted very silly prices, I have had no luck locating any of these either. A number of internet sites will quote for both of the above types, and two have taken my money, but no tyres. Both have promised refunds.
Any suggestions/recommendations? And no, I am not going to get rid of the car Tyres size is 225 55 R17, with 97Ws fitted at present. I recon anything better than 97H will do.
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Have a look at Veredstien Wintracs on the tyre review sites, although I'm not sure if they do them in the size you need.
They are a Winter tyre so may be a bit aggresive for you, but worth a look.

Other than that I used to run Firestones on my Subaru which worked well, but I can't remember which ones.

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What Nasher said, I've used Vredestein's on a few cars as do my family and never had any trouble with them.
Got Firestones on my wifes Volvo and there ok for the price.
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I ran a set of Vredesteins on my A6 quattro for a few years - they seemed to wear well and the performance was ok. They were very quiet - don't remember what they were called but they were VR rated.
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I've used vredesteins in the past but they're hard rubber so last well but fairly slippery in the wet compared to a premium brand. UHP types are summer rubber rated down to 7*C only, as are all 'normal' summer types. I've used F1's (they are UHP's) and they are very good but changed to wrangle all weather a couple of weeks ago and the slush road grip is outstanding, road noise is no worse than F1's, comfort is a little better but I expect ultimate summer grip to be less good. Block treads are not as stable since they squirm because the tread blocks at relatively unsupported. There's always a compromise.
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It was the Ultrac Sessantas I ran and never had any trouble in the dry or wet, they were on the back of my XJR and alot better than the Pirelli's which they replaced.
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Thanks guys for all your help, having looked at them the Vredsteins do look interesting. However, it looks like third time lucky, I have ordered some Grabbers and the supplier has even confirmed that they have stock. I think that this is the right way to go; I do live on the south coast, and if we get 3 or 4 days of snow it is a remarkable event Just hope that they suit the car; but nothing ventured......................
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Thanks guys for all your help, having looked at them the Vredsteins do look interesting. However, it looks like third time lucky, I have ordered some Grabbers and the supplier has even confirmed that they have stock. I think that this is the right way to go; I do live on the south coast, and if we get 3 or 4 days of snow it is a remarkable event Just hope that they suit the car; but nothing ventured......................
My experience of Vredsteins is completely different. Had them on the front of an Audi 80 1.9TDi a few years back and they lasted just 10k, very soft compound. Personally I can't see past Dunlops these days and that's what I fit to my A4 2.5 TDi quattro avant which has roughly the same engine as in your Panzerwaggen! Maybe next time. http://www.dunlop-tires.com/dunlop_u...ar_type=suv4x4
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Had them on the front of an Audi 80 1.9TDi a few years back and they lasted just 10k.[/url]
None of my tyres ever last 10,000 miles!
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None of my tyres ever last 10,000 miles!
I couldn't believe it either. The Audi always used to be heavy on the front suspension, but only 10k. I'd have been better putting on a couple of Bertie Basset liquorice allsorts!
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Normally I get somewhere around 8000 miles but it can be down to 6000 miles.
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Normally I get somewhere around 8000 miles but it can be down to 6000 miles.
FFS! What on earth are you driving, an EVO or RS4? Taking the handbrake off helps!!!
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Couple of remapped V70 T5's, a Jag XJR and a BMW 328i.
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Er, maybe I shouldn't have complained about Pirellis
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I had pirelli's from new on my diesel Subaru legacy but I found them a bit soft.. Great grip but by god they didn't last too long!! Just got firestones on there before Xmas ( and the heavy snow!!) and have so far found them great.. Great grip and just a bit more Han half the price of the pirelli!
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So , need to replace 2 of mine soon ( 235/60H18) and wondering where people find can get the not so common sizes at not so nuts prices ?

I usually get about 35000 miles from the fronts - up to 50k on the back - I dont drive slow - just have a smooth style so am gentle on the motor overall and its not a performance drive in anyway !

Usual stuff - 99% on road 1% wet slips / muddy tracks/ towing etc. Like Ian snow is very very rare ...
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Got Continentals on my BMW 255/40R17 on the back and they do the job nicely, 140 each though.
I would have got the Ultracs but needed them sharpish.
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So , need to replace 2 of mine soon ( 235/60H18) and wondering where people find can get the not so common sizes at not so nuts prices ?

I usually get about 35000 miles from the fronts - up to 50k on the back - I dont drive slow - just have a smooth style so am gentle on the motor overall and its not a performance drive in anyway !

Usual stuff - 99% on road 1% wet slips / muddy tracks/ towing etc. Like Ian snow is very very rare ...
Peter, I found that I had to just bash my tyre size into a number of sites and see what prices came up. I've now got the General Grabbers on the wagen and so far so good, but not many miles on them so far. Grip seems good, and they are quieter than the Pirellis. Noticeably better ride. Oh, and a fair bit cheaper
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I agree I had the 230bhp C70 ages ago, which went well, but it was a front tyre shredding machine .. 6K was not unusual .. when looking for tyres, brand were largely irrelevant IMHO, because it ate what ever you fitted
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