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Old 07 January 2011, 15:15   #1
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Real long shot this, but if anyone can help I would be immensely grateful. I am trying to get 4 new tyres for the Panzerwaggen, sorry Mk1 Audi Allroad. Unlike some of you guys on here the closest I gets to offroad is some of the south coast slips But it is a good tow car. So I am looking for some non-aggresive tyres to give a good ride and keep the noise down. Currently I have got Pirelli P6 Allroads on there, which grip OK for what I do, and give a reasonable ride and stability. But boy, do they wear badly Top of the list for the replacements are General Grabber UHP's, but I cannot get any despite hours on't tinternet. Also looked at Goodyear Wrangler F1's, but apart from one place that quoted very silly prices, I have had no luck locating any of these either. A number of internet sites will quote for both of the above types, and two have taken my money, but no tyres. Both have promised refunds.
Any suggestions/recommendations? And no, I am not going to get rid of the car Tyres size is 225 55 R17, with 97Ws fitted at present. I recon anything better than 97H will do.
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Have a look at Veredstien Wintracs on the tyre review sites, although I'm not sure if they do them in the size you need.
They are a Winter tyre so may be a bit aggresive for you, but worth a look.

Other than that I used to run Firestones on my Subaru which worked well, but I can't remember which ones.

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What Nasher said, I've used Vredestein's on a few cars as do my family and never had any trouble with them.
Got Firestones on my wifes Volvo and there ok for the price.
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I ran a set of Vredesteins on my A6 quattro for a few years - they seemed to wear well and the performance was ok. They were very quiet - don't remember what they were called but they were VR rated.
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I've used vredesteins in the past but they're hard rubber so last well but fairly slippery in the wet compared to a premium brand. UHP types are summer rubber rated down to 7*C only, as are all 'normal' summer types. I've used F1's (they are UHP's) and they are very good but changed to wrangle all weather a couple of weeks ago and the slush road grip is outstanding, road noise is no worse than F1's, comfort is a little better but I expect ultimate summer grip to be less good. Block treads are not as stable since they squirm because the tread blocks at relatively unsupported. There's always a compromise.
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It was the Ultrac Sessantas I ran and never had any trouble in the dry or wet, they were on the back of my XJR and alot better than the Pirelli's which they replaced.
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Thanks guys for all your help, having looked at them the Vredsteins do look interesting. However, it looks like third time lucky, I have ordered some Grabbers and the supplier has even confirmed that they have stock. I think that this is the right way to go; I do live on the south coast, and if we get 3 or 4 days of snow it is a remarkable event Just hope that they suit the car; but nothing ventured......................
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Thanks guys for all your help, having looked at them the Vredsteins do look interesting. However, it looks like third time lucky, I have ordered some Grabbers and the supplier has even confirmed that they have stock. I think that this is the right way to go; I do live on the south coast, and if we get 3 or 4 days of snow it is a remarkable event Just hope that they suit the car; but nothing ventured......................
My experience of Vredsteins is completely different. Had them on the front of an Audi 80 1.9TDi a few years back and they lasted just 10k, very soft compound. Personally I can't see past Dunlops these days and that's what I fit to my A4 2.5 TDi quattro avant which has roughly the same engine as in your Panzerwaggen! Maybe next time. http://www.dunlop-tires.com/dunlop_u...ar_type=suv4x4
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Had them on the front of an Audi 80 1.9TDi a few years back and they lasted just 10k.[/url]
None of my tyres ever last 10,000 miles!
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None of my tyres ever last 10,000 miles!
I couldn't believe it either. The Audi always used to be heavy on the front suspension, but only 10k. I'd have been better putting on a couple of Bertie Basset liquorice allsorts!
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