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Old 15 November 2008, 13:00   #1
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I've always used Bridgestone Duelers on my Shoguns, and they've always done exactly what I've wanted of them with my mix of driving, which is why I've always gone back to them. I've got 265/70/R16 S rated 689s.
They perform well on the road, but also well enough on wet grass, sand and gravel.

As with everyone I'm looking to save a few pounds when they need changing, and I've noticed the General Grabber AW's which are considerably cheaper but do get some good write-ups. The ATs would I think be too noisy for the miles I do on the road.

I can currently get the Duelers for @£95 a corner, but the AWs would be more like £75 a corner.

Has anyone ever used them?
And had any experiance to compare them to the Duelers?

And I might regret this:-
What other 4x4 tyres for mainly road use do people recommend that also perform OK on Sand, gravel and wet grass?

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Old 15 November 2008, 13:08   #2
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Runway Enduro AT -around £60 a corner. I paid £126 for 2 31x10.5R15 , inc fitting and balancing a few weeks back.

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Old 15 November 2008, 13:12   #3
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Yup what a can of worms to open......

It is impossible to get good tyres offroad that will also perform well on road. Becuase of my rather spirited driving style any sort of agressive tread pattern causes problems. I have found that the tyre blocks castle or feather - alternate wear on the blocks.

The faster the 4x4 the more of a problem it is. You can't have your cake and eat it.

Traction control is a major help - normal tyres are almost as good offroad as all terrains without.

I quite like BFG but I have found Avon Mud/Snow the best on my Disco - they are great onroad and not too bad off it.

The best thing of all would be a set of snow chains and normal road tyres. Use the snow chains in mud and they are awesome!!!

Remember on sand the less tread the better so normal road tyres are fine.
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Old 15 November 2008, 13:19   #4
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The other standard fitment on the later Shotguns is the Yoko Geolander. I've actually bought part worns off of Ebay for the L200. You need to be diligent as to what you buy. Don't entertain anything with less than 5mm tread. Try to buy tyres for sale where the owner has 'Chaved' his ride etc. I bought a superb set of 4 Duellers for £37, but had to arrange collection and a full set of Michy Daimaris for the X5 for £450 which was half price. They'd covered 15m and still had the taggy bits on the shoulders.
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Old 15 November 2008, 13:36   #5
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4 stk ÓSLITIN Kumho Ventura Nagladekk 30 tommu fyrir 15 tommu felgur, negld ekin ca 600 km (sjį spekkur hér aš nešan) price for the set GBP 179

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Yup what a can of worms to open......

It is impossible to get good tyres offroad that will also perform well on road. Becuase of my rather spirited driving style any sort of agressive tread pattern causes problems. I have found that the tyre blocks castle or feather - alternate wear on the blocks.

The faster the 4x4 the more of a problem it is. You can't have your cake and eat it.

Traction control is a major help - normal tyres are almost as good offroad as all terrains without.

I quite like BFG but I have found Avon Mud/Snow the best on my Disco - they are great onroad and not too bad off it.

The best thing of all would be a set of snow chains and normal road tyres. Use the snow chains in mud and they are awesome!!!

Remember on sand the less tread the better so normal road tyres are fine.
Spirited driving in a disco , do you have lots of good downhill corners .
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Old 16 November 2008, 12:22   #7
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Spirited driving in a disco , do you have lots of good downhill corners .
It's the roundabouts that do it. As I pay my road tax I use as much of the road as is possible - my middle name is "racing line".

When I was doing 2,000 miles a week in hire cas I was getting through front tyres on Vectras every 3000 miles - Avis used an AA mobile tyre fitter - we were on first name terms!!!
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Sounds more like you could do with a few driving lessons!
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Sounds more like you could do with a few driving lessons!
It's the traffic calming that's to blame - it seems to have the reverse effect on me.............
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Worked on all the Cayenne and Touareg test fleet that were cained around Brands Hatch and then ripped up the Bovington ranges (including the bit on Top Gear). HR rated so a Shogun won't test their upper limit and good off road. Weren't noisy at all, got very warm after the sort of spirited driving that an LR driver can only dream about but still gripped very well without resorting to electronic trickery.
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