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Old 04 February 2007, 12:53   #31
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The caravan club reckons that the Kia Sorento is a great tow car.
So does Eupa.

And Honest John.
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Old 04 February 2007, 17:16   #32
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Kia Sorrento is fine and dandy, the engine is not as refined as the new 2.2 Hyuandi.
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Why all the itty bitty engines over there?
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Why all the itty bitty engines over there?
Coz fuel costs a fortune and we pay a Tax on the size of the engine. I pay £195 for one year on a 2.2 Diesel, on top of insurance and fuel duty. Also its the easiest way for the government to collect tax to pay for its social engineering. Road tax is not spent on roads in this country !!!! Tony Blair might be a warmongerer and supporting the US, but he's also a Socialist, and by golly if you are lucky enough you are going to pay for some fat/useless/lazy/good for nothing man/women /baby producing women to sit at home and procreate from any man she fancies having a good time with. Apparently in the Us you have given these people 5 years to get a job. We have just given them carte blanche to get even lazier. Fuel is the easiest way to get this money so we gotta be carefull what size engines we have.

Apologies if I have upset some genuine needy people but the people who abuse the system have really peed off the people who pay the tax through there hard work.
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Why all the itty bitty engines over there?
Fuel prices and nowhere too far to go... It's interesting reading this thread though. Some of the tow vehicles you refer to (RAV, Sorrento? ) would never be considered as tow vehicles here... at least not for anything bigger than a 4M SIB. I see that a number of them are diesels though which would make a difference.

Over here in the Great White North, anyone I know drives a full size truck for towing. My own vehicle is a 5.3 l V8 GMC Yukon. It pulls my Hurricane beautifully, even at 120 kph+ on the major freeways... Pass everything but a gas station as they say! Our fuel is about .80/litre at the moment... about half of what it is in the UK I imagine, if not less than that.

I had a V6 in an Isuzu a couple of trucks ago and after blowing three sets of rings in two summers, I ditched it...
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Road tax is not spent on roads in this country !!!!
Biggles, if it makes you feel any better, it isn't over here either. On the upside, at least someone is benefitting from the fuel prices...
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Hee hee - and once they put a couple of nuclear reactors up in Northern Alberta we'll be extracting so much oil from those tar sands, that it will be as plentiful as water. Sure the leader of the opposition party here is a socialist who keeps on railing about the environment and the Kyoto accord ( ), but he does not speak (intelligible) English, so fortunately nobody listens to him.
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Some of the tow vehicles you refer to (RAV, Sorrento? ) would never be considered as tow vehicles here... at least not for anything bigger than a 4M SIB. I see that a number of them are diesels though which would make a difference.
The Nissan is rated at 2000kg for towing (for the 2.2 diesel) and the Kia Sorento is rated at 3500kg (auto only). I couldn't find a trailer rating for the RAV4 on the Toyota web site so presumably it's only intended for pulling a handbag! In the UK, 3500kg is the most you can tow without fitting coupled hydraulic or air brakes on the trailer.

Found the Rav4 towing spec now... it's a limp-wristed 1500kg for petrol models, and a slightly more butch 2000kg for diesel models.
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Found the Rav4 towing spec now... it's a limp-wristed 1500kg for petrol models, and a slightly more butch 2000kg for diesel models.
"Gay", "Limpwristed", "butch" - definately a pseudo machoism thing going on Richard..... Bet you wear Louises underwear at weekends (you don't have to answer that...)
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Coz fuel costs a fortune and we pay a Tax on the size of the engine. I pay £195 for one year on a 2.2 Diesel, on top of insurance and fuel duty. Also its the easiest way for the government to collect tax to pay for its social engineering. Road tax is not spent on roads in this country !!!! Tony Blair might be a warmongerer and supporting the US, but he's also a Socialist, and by golly if you are lucky enough you are going to pay for some fat/useless/lazy/good for nothing man/women /baby producing women to sit at home and procreate from any man she fancies having a good time with. Apparently in the Us you have given these people 5 years to get a job. We have just given them carte blanche to get even lazier. Fuel is the easiest way to get this money so we gotta be carefull what size engines we have.

Apologies if I have upset some genuine needy people but the people who abuse the system have really peed off the people who pay the tax through there hard work.

You think thats bad try €755 for a 2.2l and around €1400 for a 3.1 Trooper
over here and very little of going towards road upgrades .
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