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Old 02 February 2007, 14:28   #21
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td4 slow?? mine used to do 116, Slow !! you want to try pressing your right foot harder!! ha ha, they do suffer from lack of ground clearance but for what they are, they are pretty good!!!
at the time i had a Saladin Armoured car, think it was about 7 tons, pulled that ok when i ran out of fuel!!
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Old 02 February 2007, 15:37   #22
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I seriously considered a RAV4 but discounted it on the grounds that you can't open the rear door with a trailer attached! This was too much of a limitation for me with a tow vehicle!

I bought a Nissan X-Trail 2.2 dCi Sport instead, which is a fantastic tow vehicle for my 6.5m RIB. In my view it is the perfect compromise between a car and a big 4x4.

Feel free to PM me if you want further details.
Interesting, I already have this problem with my Shogun. Is it likely to be any worse?

As far as I can see, the latest RAV has 2 advantages over the x-trail. 1. It looks more aesthetically pleasing to my wife and 2. The newer version has an axle lock - which has got to help big time on a slippery slipway. The trouble is the later version is much larger and smaller would have been better.

Have you had any experience of the x-trail on sand or a poor slipway?

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Old 02 February 2007, 16:53   #23
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td4 slow?? mine used to do 116, Slow !! you want to try pressing your right foot harder!! ha ha, they do suffer from lack of ground clearance but for what they are, they are pretty good!!!
at the time i had a Saladin Armoured car, think it was about 7 tons, pulled that ok when i ran out of fuel!!
must have been down hill with a breeze then as land rover themselves quote 102mph as the top speed for the td4, with a 0-60 time of 13.2 minutes/hours...real world mid range is equally speedy. 7 tonnes towing with a 1.8 tonne limit - how much of your rover was left after that then?

rich there's some useful (ish) banter on pistonheads about 4x4s including comments on freelander/crv/rav4 here:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...&hw=freelander
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I had a good nose at my Dad's new auto diesel Sante Fe last week. Impressive but the ridges in the bonnet would make it a bit 'odd' to drive for anyone short as they effectively make the car look 'pointed' from the driver's seat.

Hell of a car for the money but I don't think it had low range.4x4 is switchable though. Might be different in the manual version?
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Interesting, I already have this problem with my Shogun. Is it likely to be any worse?

As far as I can see, the latest RAV has 2 advantages over the x-trail. 1. It looks more aesthetically pleasing to my wife and 2. The newer version has an axle lock - which has got to help big time on a slippery slipway. The trouble is the later version is much larger and smaller would have been better.

Have you had any experience of the x-trail on sand or a poor slipway?

Thanks

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You mentioned that the newer RAV has an axle lock. My X-Trail has a switch next to the steering column that you use to select 2 wheel drive, auto 4 wheel drive or to lock all four wheels.

I've not driven it on sand, but have used the slipway at Warsash, which is usually good gravel. However, at a very low tide, the bottom of the slipway is steeper and fairly lumpy. I've not had a problem recovering yet!

My only complaint is that there is no low gear ratio. I found the "creep" speed of my old Series III Landy fantastic for reversing down a slip.

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Old 03 February 2007, 17:36   #26
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Subaru low ratio?

I believe that it's only the non-turbo Imprezas that have a low ratio box.
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Old 03 February 2007, 18:04   #27
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I reckon the Hyuandi Santefe 4X4 2.2 diesel with select dif lock, leather, 7 seats (huge room with the back seats down flat).

Dont know whether your talking Diesel or petrol but the Hyuandi diesel will pull it fine...Do let me know if your find different as I plan on buying one as 2nd car just for that reason.

If on a budget the previous 2.ltr Santefe 5 seats will do.
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what's the general consensus of the RAV 4?
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Kia Sorrento?

My folks have just taken up caravaning

The caravan club reckons that the Kia Sorreto is a great tow car. Not mu cup of tea though.
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