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Old 29 January 2008, 14:23   #1
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Pulling a trailer with humber 5.8

Bought a rib now have the problems of towing it.
Its a humber destroyer 5.8m with a 140 suzuki on it and its on a double axel trailer.
Just wondering what would be the overall weight? and if a 1.4 Toyota would pull it on the road ? maybe not launch it but tow on the road?

Any suggestions?
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Old 29 January 2008, 14:44   #2
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I think you will be struggling with a 1.4l engine, however, the real issue is what weight the car is 'authorised' to tow. The maximum towing weight for a braked trailer should be found in your car handbook, I am guessing it will be around 1200kg. My 6.3m Ocean Pro with the same engine but on a single axle trailer and with 100ltr fuel and all normal kit on board weighed in at circa 1350 kg (boat and trailer). Good luck.
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Old 29 January 2008, 15:33   #3
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and if a 1.4 Toyota would pull it on the road ? maybe not launch it but tow on the road?
Yikes! I just bought a Chev Tahoe with a 5.3 l. V8 to pull my 5.9m Hurricane. I suspect my boat is somewhat heavier, but I can't imagine a 1.4 l pulling it safely.

Assuming you do anyway, how do you intend to launch? Let me rephrase that... recover? (The launch will be easy!)
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Old 29 January 2008, 15:35   #4
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the real problem is not pulling it, its stopping it!
I used to know someone who pulled a 5.8M destroyer with a 125HP outboard using a 1.6l Rover 214. It easily pulled it along and once moving was fine, however if there were any problems the boat was going to take over and there was no way he was stopping in a hurry, trailer brakes or no trailer brakes........
your insurance will also be null and void if you are over the recommended towing weight of your vehicle plus the rozzers will have a field day with you if you ever get stopped, and they do stop the odd trailer even up here now and again and have a decko.
The boat is the only reason I keep my old Cherokee, otherwise it would have gone years ago, one of the other hidden costs of having a RIB.........

I also remember p**sing myself laughing after he misjudged a launch and the boat pulled the Rover right into the water as far as the rear of the front doors, the engine was still running and the bubbles were coming up at the back but he couldn't pull the boat and now waterfilled boot of his car back up. He had to wait till I got some bodies to physically unhook the boat and help push the car and trailer back up the slip out the water, something that was a bit difficult as we were all bent double laughing our heads off.
I would hate to have been the next owner of that particular car............
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Old 29 January 2008, 16:05   #5
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...one of the other hidden costs of having a RIB.........
LOL.. When I "upsized" my RIB from a 4.5 m Hurricane, I tried pulling it behind my V6 Isuzu. After blowing 2 sets or rings over the next month, I broke down and bought a GMC Yukon... I think it was about $52K as I recall.

The first time I used it to take the boat into the dealer, all he said was "Nice accessory..." He resisted saying "I told you so" as he had told me I was going to need something bigger.

As mentioned, there is so much more to trailering than just getting the boat rolling. Horsepower, transmission, torque, wheelbase, weight of the tow vehicle all have a tremendous bearing. I pull my boat about 4 to 5,000 km a year, much of it on 120 kph highways, so I need a serious tow vehicle.

On the other hand, if you intend to pull your new Humber to a yard and store it there and never tow it again, I suspect you could have a mate pull it for you, or hire someone to do so. It would be a shame to total that nice new boat because your little car couldn't stop it in an emergency!
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Your 3 biggest problems, first I dont think a small 1.4 Toyota would be able to pull a boat with that size engine and combined weight without breaking the law, 2nd, if you are, then stopping it will be hard and you will go through brake pads like no ones business and again Im not usre how safe it would be if you really had to break hard, then also you clutch will be fried in seconds. You will start building up lots of points on your halfords store card very quickly. If your not going far and budget doesnt allow for much more spending, best buy a cheap old 4x4, get it checked out and making sure your safe
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Old 29 January 2008, 16:55   #7
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thanks for the replys.
will only have to tow it about 7miles on flat road the odd time so might do
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If its a Corolla, then car weights roughly 1200kg. And the towing capacity is 1000kg.
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Its an Auris 1.4 new model of corola.
Toyota told me the gross weight of car is 1720kg and if i was to fit hitch to it hitch towing capacity would be around 1200 to 1300kg.
It would probably tow it the short distance of 7 to 8 miles taking it easy..
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Its an Auris 1.4 new model of corola.
Toyota told me the gross weight of car is 1720kg and if i was to fit hitch to it hitch towing capacity would be around 1200 to 1300kg.
It would probably tow it the short distance of 7 to 8 miles taking it easy..
Mmm Check HERE You'll find it's more like 1000Kg!!!
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