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18 March 2010, 22:14
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RIBnet supporter
Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Ocean & Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzi DT200EFI, DT9.9
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New wagon
So after 8 years and 140K miles the faithful Shogun has to go.......
It now needs it’s 3rd clutch and flywheel in 4K miles after doing 140K miles on the first one, and the garage is fed up with putting them in Free of Charge at £2800 a pop.
They have said that something else must be wrong, and will investigate. My own investigations with Mitsubishi technical have confirmed that engine problems, specifically crankshaft, on some higher mileage examples have caused Duel mass flywheels to let go after a few thousand miles.
I'm looking at a £5K bill on a £3.5K car – Bugger
Anyway it’s a good excuse for a shiny new(to me anyway) car.
I’ve narrowed it down to what I really want, a 4.2TD Toyota Amazon, or what I’m more likely to find at the right price, a 2.7TD Discovery 3 HSE.
I need 7 seats, a large boot, decent 4x4 ability and a good everyday family car.
And this will be another keeper, so it’ll need to be good for a few years/miles.
Trouble is my £17k budget will not stretch to a post 04 Amazon in a dark colour with less than 120K on the clock, but I can find 05 to 06 Disco 3 HSEs(with all the toys) with under 80K miles. I’d end up with a slightly older Amazon with more miles.
I like both cars, and have driven both, my heart says the Amazon mainly because of the engine, but my head says the Disco is a more sensible buy as it’s cheaper to run and is physically the same size as the Shogun. It’s also better thought out for everyday use.
Has anyone experienced or lived with both and can offer any advise?
Ta
Nasher.
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18 March 2010, 22:35
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Town: Solent
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Purely from an aesthetic point of view, and because I think they are very very cool its got to be a Disco 3
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18 March 2010, 22:48
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Town: fife
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I would say go for a disco 3. drove one of these last year (2.7D) was very impressed with it. interior is a nice place to be. and it went ok too.
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18 March 2010, 22:54
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At least there is no risk of unstoppable acceleration in the Discofairy ;-)
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18 March 2010, 23:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasher
Trouble is my £17k budget will not stretch to a post 04 Amazon in a dark colour with less than 120K on the clock,
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Whaaaaaaat  .. 17k for something with 120k on the clock  .. Have to say I think you Disco mentalists are in Fairy land .. you really are  .. I priced a commercial lately and a used one was thirty grand  .. for what ? I couldnt even fit in the bloody drivers seat ... competitors are selling new motors of different marks with 5 year warranties for half of that  stroll on
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18 March 2010, 23:06
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Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigmuz7
Whaaaaaaat  .. 17k for something with 120k on the clock  ..
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Yep, I know, but that's how much a high milage Amazon goes for, and thats looking hard.
The more normal price is more like £19-20K
Nasher.
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18 March 2010, 23:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasher
Yep, I know, but that's how much a high milage Amazon goes for.
nasher.
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Blimey .. I must get out more .. and in a recession proof area too
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19 March 2010, 08:40
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Town: St. Austell,Cornwall
Boat name: Essa
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Engine: 150 optimax
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Well despite dire warnings of reliability problems I bought a new Disco 3 in November 04 one of the very first off the line, five years later would have to say I certainly don't regret it, no breakdowns, about 3 warranty repairs of fairly minor issues (heated windscreen, coolant sensor, handbrake switch) 1 out of warranty repair (suspension compressor went bang). Add in its on road manners, the seven seats (six rugby players with kit & me) and its towing capability and overall I'm hugely impressed. I'm not a LR 'fan' it's just a car, my needs have now changed so will probably look elsewhere next, possibly an X5 if its a better on road car.
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19 March 2010, 08:41
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Town: N. Pembrokeshire
Boat name: Razorbill&Shearwater
Make: Ocean7 DClass Pac24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasher
Yep, I know, but that's how much a high milage Amazon goes for, and thats looking hard.
The more normal price is more like £19-20K
Nasher.
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Hey Nasher, sorryto hear of the Shogun issues...I decided against the one we discussed....was just too high miles for me....the GCherry lives on!
Just my two penneths worth....does it have to be Amazon? If I could stretch to it at the moment, I would go Toyota Lc3 /Lc4 trim....but one of these. Still a big old beast!
I know this is older at 03, but as an example, http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...1500?logcode=p
Average miles, 7 seats....they look good too IMO. My cousin has one and loves it! Just my personal preference on a big 4wd, but auto would also be on my list....
£4k left over for RIB toys too!
Dan
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19 March 2010, 08:43
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: N. Pembrokeshire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kernow
my needs have now changed so will probably look elsewhere next.....
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I guess the rig's a lot lighter with that shiney new Ali trailer Kernow!
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