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Old 25 September 2007, 09:04   #31
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The ONLY reason he was accused of taking the car without permission was the company trying to distance themselves from the incident. The court obviously thought the same as that was thrown out.

and please don't assume that all Police drivers are very advanced. There are more and more accidents each year - the standard of Police driving is way down on what it used to be. i was nealry hit by a marked patrol car jumping a red light withour even having his sirens on.

Another time I saw a marked car driving at high speed at night - he DID have his blue lights on - unfortunately he had forgotten about his headlights!!!

I would definitely agree that a 911 is far safer at speed than the Vectra. I had a Vectra Gsi on lease for a while - it was stupidly fast over about 70mph but the car was a bit nose heavy and slightly under damped. Now I will admit that I haven't driven a new 911 but I have driven a Ferrari 360 many times and it is in a different league to the Vectra so I assume the 911 is as well as it's a direct rival to the Ferrari.
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Old 25 September 2007, 11:31   #32
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If you're going too fast/not paying enough attention to slow down in time for a speed trap then you're driving dangerously whatever car you're in.

Doesn't matter if it's a Lexus,a 911 or a Spagliatelli Carbonara-if it can do those speeds then your reactions and thinking you're a good driver are what'll kill someone-not the car. It's more capable than you are.
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If you're going too fast/not paying enough attention to slow down in time for a speed trap then you're driving dangerously whatever car you're in.

Doesn't matter if it's a Lexus,a 911 or a Spagliatelli Carbonara-if it can do those speeds then your reactions and thinking you're a good driver are what'll kill someone-not the car. It's more capable than you are.
I agree unless its those sneaky little bike hating welsh police who hide away with their little revenue guns just inside the 40 sign . They are so sneaky you don't even know until the ticket arrives .
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I agree unless its those sneaky little bike hating welsh police who hide away with their little revenue guns just inside the 40 sign . They are so sneaky you don't even know until the ticket arrives .
That's actually technically illegal-they are supposed to be visible and on a few occasions I've stopped and given coppers doing that on the North Swindon bypass a dressing down and taken their badge numbers (funnily enough they stopped doing it quite quickly).
If you get caught like that then defend it.
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I was and i did but waste of time .
Ticket turned up a week or so after i had got home from trip to wales saying I was doing 50 in a 40 . In a place i can't pronounce or spell .
I asked for the pics and they sent pictures of a car , i returned them and they sent the picture of me with another bike in the picture with my bike obscuring his number . I believe i had slowed down for the limit and the other bike had overtaken me .
Tried to fight it but a day off for a trip to wales to represent myself in court with the cost and chance of losing made it easier and much cheaper to pay the 60 and take 3 points on a clean licence .
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The Welsh police are the worst of the lot for these sneaky underhand tactics.

There was a case a while ago where a camera was illegally sited on the M4 during some roadworks. Something like 2500 people were prosecuted. When it was found out the prosecutions were illegal the local authority refused to write to the motorists and let them know - they said they would only remove the points and refund the fines if people came forward - they are quick enough to write in the first place.

Ahh found it

http://www.abd.org.uk/talivan_incompetence.htm

2003 October South Wales M4 Newport
2,500 Drivers. 150,000 in fines.
In a tale of staggering ineptitude or deliberate malpractice, a speed camera van targetted part of the M4 outside of a temporary 50mph speed limit due to roadworks. Thousands of drivers on the M4 at Coldra near Newport were wrongly fined.
Despite admitting their 'mistake', the arrogant prats refused to allow a blanket amnesty and insisted drivers would have to apply individually to have their points returned and fines refunded.
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The Welsh police are the worst of the lot for these sneaky underhand tactics.
Believe it or not, the Johannesburg police force are far worse. Paying speeding fines is an every day part of life down there (they don't get points though).

I worked down there for 6 months a year or so back and picked up a load of fines at 30 each. Their cameras are not visible either and have no road markings like gatsos.

A friend of mine got so fed up of dishing out 100 or so each month that he just took his back number plate off. Solved the problem straight away!
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/s...re/5271480.stm

Just an update - not only was he doing 159mph on a Motorway but 131mph on an A road and 91mph in a 30mph zone.

Now the 1st and 2nd are fair enough if the conditions were right etc but 91 in a 30..........
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Now the 1st and 2nd are fair enough if the conditions were right etc but 91 in a 30..........
fair enough

What if some poor person had broken down on the A road ?
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Some A roads have hard shoulders or very long straights.
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