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Old 24 September 2007, 16:15   #21
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When they extended the M4 past Baglan the section by J44 used to be the A48 - when it changed to the M4 the ONLY difference were the signs!!! There are plenty of other instances in the UK.
Now that's not true, is it CP? - the scheme 'straightened out' the nasty 'S' bend where the two petrol filling stations used to be, widened the highway to include a hard shoulder and put a longer radius to the last bend eastwards before J43 at Llandarcy


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In fact some A roads are actually better than motorways. One example is the Neath to Glyneath section of the A465 - it is a concrete surface which has awesome banking on it - quite safe to do 170mph in sections - in good conditions when there's no traffic.
Apart from the roundabouts at Resolven, where some guy always pulls out in front of you scoffing a Big Mac

Camber is cool though and that stretch of road is a massive improvement over the old A465, which was plagued with fatal crashes for years.
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Old 24 September 2007, 16:28   #22
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Actually the worst part of the S bend remains - under the bridge with the nasty concrete armco - the section past J43 is identical.

I had almost forgotten those petrol stations!!!
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- the section past J43 is identical.
Apart from the feed to the new bridge at Earlswood and the 'third' lane to the old bridge............................ I'll leave it there now

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I had almost forgotten those petrol stations!!!
How mad were they? People pulling out of the petrol stations into rush hour traffic at 70+mph between two tight bends

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I agree it is madness on a road like that but the copper was just as guilty!!!
Exactly one law for them and a different one for the rest of us

PS Codders AVG seems to work ok touch wood fingers crossed
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Apart from the feed to the new bridge at Earlswood and the 'third' lane to the old bridge............................ I'll leave it there now



How mad were they? People pulling out of the petrol stations into rush hour traffic at 70+mph between two tight bends

Happy days!
must be tough living in the third world!!!

some great mbike roads though
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You wouldn't have wanted to go biking on that road.
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I had almost forgotten those petrol stations!!! [/QUOTE]


doesn't that answer the real difference between a motorway and a dual cariageway . apart from the restriction of slow vehicles .
On a motorway you know the only junctions you come across will be propper long sliproads , no traffic crossing the road , or entering and exiting on hidden or short junctions , laybys ,filling ,stations etc .
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I had almost forgotten those petrol stations!!!

doesn't that answer the real difference between a motorway and a dual cariageway . apart from the restriction of slow vehicles .
On a motorway you know the only junctions you come across will be propper long sliproads , no traffic crossing the road , or entering and exiting on hidden or short junctions , laybys ,filling ,stations etc . [/QUOTE]

You obviously haven't noticed the ones in Port Talbot!!!
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The problem I have with the porsche driver is that - as I understand it - he wasn't allowed to drive the car and therefore I wonder whether he had experience of ever driving it, let alone at those sorts of speeds. As he had taken the car without permission, surely the bigger issue is that he was therefore uninsured!

Although not condoning the actions of the copper, he was - I am guessing - an advanced driver if he was driving an unmarked police car and should, therefore, 1) have known better but also 2) should have been able to control the car at higher speeds. I am also assuming that the copper hadn't stolen the car.

They are two different cases although I do believe that the law should be more equal.
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911 designed and honed to go, stop and handle at over 150mph OR Vectra designed to carry sales rep and bag of samples to and from travel loge?

Which is safer doing travailing at the other side of 150?

Not saying it is safe to do this in a 911 on a A road, but it must be safer than in a Vectra?

Hell “luxury car hire delivery driver” me thinks he was AS experienced as any copper at going fast (www.helphire.co.uk).
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