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Old 20 October 2005, 03:55   #21
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.... Unfeasibly tall would probably be nearer the mark!
..... even you wouldn't look out of place on one of these muthas...
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Old 20 October 2005, 04:29   #22
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The problem is they are rapidly closing more and more of the LEGAL routes - just pushing laws through with no opposition.
Well, get out there and lobby your MP, the local council. Get access to the Definative Maps, do your research and act.
Join GLASS, LARA and the Motorbike group (whose name I forget). Liase with the council and organise lane clearing, and show the dog walkers, ramblers, horse riders and other do-gooder townies that you care more than them.
DON'T just go out and rip up the surface and try to get stuck. It gives the rest of us a bad name.
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Old 20 October 2005, 04:36   #23
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This group.. http://www.trf.org.uk/
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Well, get out there and lobby your MP, the local council. Get access to the Definative Maps, do your research and act.
Join GLASS, LARA and the Motorbike group (whose name I forget). Liase with the council and organise lane clearing, and show the dog walkers, ramblers, horse riders and other do-gooder townies that you care more than them.
DON'T just go out and rip up the surface and try to get stuck. It gives the rest of us a bad name.
Actually what causes the problem is people going in big groups - "just out for a laugh with their mates".

A VERY good friend of mine owns a farm where the local Roman Road virtually goes through his farmyard. He has no opbjection to the odd Land Rover purring through on it's own but when you have 12 of them on a jolly it is a TOTALLY different matter. Even worse are the bikes - a 4x4 you will hardly hear at over 100yds but a motorbike is totally different - especially when you have 30 of them!!!

Motorbikes have caused most of the probs but of course they won't just ban bikes so everyone else has to suffer.

One of the least damaging of all must be a proper quad like the farmers use - lower ground pressure than a human an quiet with it. 2 stroke bikes have NO PLACE in the National Parks.

I have tried telling people until I am blue in the face that if people carry on going in these big convoys we will end up with no offroading at all - people just don't listen and the LR mags along with Bike groups etc still organise the damn things - then they whinge about all the routes being closed!!!

I see it from all sides - have walked in the Beacons since a kid - live very near by - drive my Landie there and have TOTAL respect for the countryside.

There just aren't enough people to lobby this cause - too many bloody ramblers(old gits) about - look what happened at Windemere!!!
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Old 20 October 2005, 09:03   #25
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Actually what causes the problem is people going in big groups - "just out for a laugh with their mates".

A VERY good friend of mine owns a farm where the local Roman Road virtually goes through his farmyard. He has no opbjection to the odd Land Rover purring through on it's own but when you have 12 of them on a jolly it is a TOTALLY different matter. Even worse are the bikes - a 4x4 you will hardly hear at over 100yds but a motorbike is totally different - especially when you have 30 of them!!!

Motorbikes have caused most of the probs but of course they won't just ban bikes so everyone else has to suffer.

One of the least damaging of all must be a proper quad like the farmers use - lower ground pressure than a human an quiet with it. 2 stroke bikes have NO PLACE in the National Parks.

I have tried telling people until I am blue in the face that if people carry on going in these big convoys we will end up with no offroading at all - people just don't listen and the LR mags along with Bike groups etc still organise the damn things - then they whinge about all the routes being closed!!!

I see it from all sides - have walked in the Beacons since a kid - live very near by - drive my Landie there and have TOTAL respect for the countryside.

There just aren't enough people to lobby this cause - too many bloody ramblers(old gits) about - look what happened at Windemere!!!
i would agree smaller groups are better, upto 5 bikes is good, 4 strokers are best and quiet ones so we dont scare the old ladies.

best to be nice and polite so as not to give the grumpy ones anything to moan about.

i think cars do more damage than bikes to be honest

so codders....can the hampshire boys come over to yours to stay as a base camp for exploring your neck of the woods?
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Old 20 October 2005, 09:04   #26
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Motorbikes have caused most of the probs but of course they won't just ban bikes so everyone else has to suffer.


I used to do quite a lot of "green laning" in my *ahem* younger days and find your comments absurd. Could you explain why a a group of 100Kg motorcycles traversing a green lane causes "most of the problems" when a group of 1800KG-ish LandRovers on Mud-Pluggers..... now that's showing my age..... doesn't? .....and in the same bizarre outburst you talk about LR magazines being to blame for organising group events.

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and have TOTAL respect for the countryside.

There just aren't enough people to lobby this cause - too many bloody ramblers(old gits) about - look what happened at Windemere!!!
Ramblers have "rights" too. You'll be an old git quicker than you think old bean....
in fact, you're well on the way.

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I used to do quite a lot of "green laning" in my *ahem* younger days and find your comments absurd. Could you explain why a a group of 100Kg motorcycles traversing a green lane causes "most of the problems" when a group of 1800KG-ish LandRovers on Mud-Pluggers..... now that's showing my age..... doesn't? .....and in the same bizarre outburst you talk about LR magazines being to blame for organising group events.

All those who tell me I'm "childish" to have a go at Codders please press the red button now. Believe me, I have toned this response down somewhat.....
NOISE NOISE NOISE = CRAZY FROG =

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NOISE NOISE NOISE = CRAZY FROG =

Ding ding

A Brem Brem

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A ring ding ding ding ding
Ring ding
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Ring ding ding ding ding
A Ring Ding Ding Dingdemgdemg
A ring ding ding ding ding
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i think that would be a 2 stroke matey

4 strokes dont make that noise and a lot of greenlaners would agree that 2 strokers are a bit obtrusive
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It was not really that strange - I was saying big groups of Land Rovers or other 4x4s are also a problem.

Ramblers can be just as bad - go to the top of Pen-y-fan or Corn Du or any other popular area and you will see what I mean - not a blade of grass in site and the stupid idiots even destroyed a Bronze age cairn to make windbreaks!!!

ANY sort of big group will cause problems - 2 or 3 people walking along a narrow path are soon past and forgotten - a bloody coachload is a different matter!!!

I NEVER stick to the paths when I wander around the mountains - and as a result there is NO damage anywhere as a result - it is the constant passage of feet that causes the problem.

Have you noticed the paths sheep make? Why do people have to behave the same???
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