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Old 24 August 2005, 16:56   #41
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Conservative ?????? liberal ????? social democrats ????? or labour ???? all up to politics and in fact doesn´t matter as long as they get their extra lobbying pocket money

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Thats an easy one to answer, its a policital reason, seen to be supporting local industry and engineering, keeping jobs at home on the Mainland etc etc, if Nissan Patrols were built at the Rover Plant, they would be using them too, If you are a UK organisation, it makes sense for you to buy locally, support your own economy, keep your own people in work you wouldnt have it any other way.
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Why are they then still being used by organisations that require vehicles to be 110% reliable? The Coastguard, Bomb Squad, Police, The Armed Forces, The Security Forces.. etc.. etc..
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Old 24 August 2005, 17:18   #44
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Getting back to my first point about head gasket failures in Freelanders,

http://www.preloved.co.uk/fuseaction.../833f1455.html

There is a poor guy on here 6 yr old Freelander he is only on engine number 3

and another post refers to Freelanders being released for sale with 15 know defects
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Thats an easy one to answer, its a policital reason, seen to be supporting local industry and engineering, keeping jobs at home on the Mainland etc etc, if Nissan Patrols were built at the Rover Plant, they would be using them too, If you are a UK organisation, it makes sense for you to buy locally, support your own economy, keep your own people in work you wouldnt have it any other way.
So why do the Police use BMW's, Subaru's, Volvo's, etc.. Instead of Rover 75's??

It may have been the case a few decades ago that Government financed peeps had to buy British, but not anymore.. Take the case of the Royal Navy Bomb Squad, if the landies they use kept breaking down, and the bombs kept going off because they couldn't get there, its pretty certain they woulda changed their vehicle many years ago.. And Charity's like the RNLI have boards to answer to with regard to value for money when they buy anything..
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I wonder why the Yank special forces use Land Rovers instead of Hummers - as do the SAS?

I wonder why Land Rovers are still so popular in Africa where they get a REAL hammering.

Of course ALL British engineering is obviously crap - which is why Rolls Royce STILL make the worlds best jet engines......

That is it - no more - that Irish thing will continue to slag off ANYTHING British no matter what - serious chip on his shoulder - oh and by the way we invented them as well - even St Patrick wasn't home grown - WELSH actually........
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I have the ability to come on here, compliment Bogib about the Landies he posted pics of, I admire the look of Defenders in particular, but I am also able to come on and post links and articles to real Landrover problems, articles, and threads on the web.

Its likely lots of us will invarably tow a rib from time to time,I believe that the Japs are streets ahead of British engineering, electronics, mechanics and this is hugly evident in their vehicles, and outboards.
This is a fact of life, you might not like spending on Japaneese consumables, would prefer to support local industry, and engineering, and thats nice, but at the end of the day a jeep for me must do the job its asked of, and be reliable.

Landrovers, and its only my opinion, supported by various internet articles, about recalls, failures, breakdowns unfortunatly are built to a very old design, which was once modern, but sadly have been superceeded by far superior Japaneese vehicles, over engineered, and capable range of 4x4s .
Pajeros, Land Cruisers Patrols, for example
I mean come on you didnt see the Taliban driving around in Defenders,
we all know its Toyota down in Austraila where off roading is a daily occurance, never mind towing.
And the reasons that Japaneese vehicles are used, simply they are reliable vehicles, unlike Landrover, which will let you down.

Now if you are an enthuaist and have the time to do the work, maybe a Landy is for you , but I wouldnt risk it, by towing a boat with one , its the one time you need reliability, and cannot be let down
Gavin do you have little slit eyes?
You do like all that Jap c**p rather a lot!
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Its not possible for you to give it to me one on one, about Defenders, slaging of Irish, St Patrick, Japanese built stuff, will only momentairly deflect attention away from the fact that Landrovers are flawed, un reliable, rusty, and effectivly a hobby vehicle.
As to Landrovers in Africa, maybe the fact they can be purchased cheaply encourages their use in Africa, and third world countries,

As for the RNLI , we get a lot of trailer pulling 4x4 s on delivery in Dun Laoghaire, I have yet to see a Landrover ,over here anyway, mostly Hiluxs and Toyotas with RNLI logos on them,

I dont know about Yank Special Forces using them, Ive only ever seen Hummers on Iraq tv footage,

As to having slit eyes, well I just hope the people who read these forums with an Asian background arnt too offended by those comments,

If you want to have a go at me, disprove the links to various sites I have provided for your reading, that would be more like it
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If you want to have a go at me, disprove the links to various sites I have provided for your reading, that would be more like it
There is no point - you are totally biased and prejuidiced - total waste of time!!!
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For my 10p worth... first Freelander I had blew its head gasket at 18000 miles and one month out of warranty. After many grumpy letters and a few copies to watchdog they eventually paid for the repai - but it cost us a month of rental car. Then the exhaust fell off, water leaked into the rear and some plastic bits fell off inside.

Sold it... bought another one.... Td4 this time and its a good little car. (but it can't pull an 8m rib out of the oggin).

And yes, land rovers rock. Disco 3 next subject to available funds.........
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