Gas guzzler road tax

[codprawn]

I suppose everyone has heard about the new massive increases in road tax? The media keep saying it's only for gas guzzlers and loads of people have said we need to get "big" vehciles off the roads.

What is a gas guzzler? Yes I suppose a 4L V8 could be classed as one but these new changes mean that 88% of all cars will have to pay more tax. It seems anything over a 1.8L is now a gas guzzler.................

[Nos4r2]

What's the cost for vehicles that are pre-co2 figures? I can't find the right numbers anywhere. Even DVLA haven't updated them.

[codprawn]

Not a clue they are being deliberately wooly on it. I do know that eventually you will have to pay £950 for tax on a new car in it's first year!!!

What this will mean is a load of bigger cars with stupidly small engines that are dangerously slow and will actually use MORE fuel as you have to thrash them so much...................

[Polwart]

Originally Posted by codprawn

Not a clue they are being deliberately wooly on it. I do know that eventually you will have to pay £950 for tax on a new car in it's first year!!!

What this will mean is a load of bigger cars with stupidly small engines that are dangerously slow and will actually use MORE fuel as you have to thrash them so much...................

I doubt it - the majority of new "big" cars are companies cars - so not sure it will actually make any significant decision to peoples "buying decisions". If it does the "sin" tax will have worked - in general sin taxes aren't particulalry effective at changing behaviour.

[Polwart]

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

What's the cost for vehicles that are pre-co2 figures? I can't find the right numbers anywhere. Even DVLA haven't updated them.

The AA website has:

Cars registered before March 2001

In many cases the emissions test data is simply not available for cars registered before March 2001, so, the rate of VED can't be linked to CO2 emissions. Yet, there are still discounts to be had for smaller cars. If the engine capacity is 1,549cc or less, you'll pay £120 (up £5 from the 2007/8 rate of £115) compared to £185 (up £5 from the 2007/8 rate of £180) per year if the engine's over 1,549cc

Originally Posted by codprawn

I do know that eventually you will have to pay £950 for tax on a new car in it's first year!!!

only on cars > 255 g CO2 per km - which is actually not that many. There a "sliding scale" below that, so e.g. a 1.8L "family car" might have emissions of 186 g/km. And will pay an extra £155 in the first year (as the headline £425 figure for that new band actually includes the road tax, which will be £270 the following year).

[the bandit]

for the last couple of years they said its for 4x4 total rubbish my Range Rover 4.4 petrol road tax is £205 my lexus 400 with a 4 litre is the same however a 300 lexus driver came up to me moaning he was paying over £300 and that had a 3litre engine

[codprawn]

Remember many countries like Spain have no road tax - it's on the fuel - AND their fuel is cheaper than our...........

[JABS]

Originally Posted by codprawn

Not a clue they are being deliberately wooly on it. I do know that eventually you will have to pay £950 for tax on a new car in it's first year!!!

What this will mean is a load of bigger cars with stupidly small engines that are dangerously slow and will actually use MORE fuel as you have to thrash them so much...................

Oh! I see, more revenue from road fuel on smallerengined cars.

It is all so transparent an predictable.

Ever tried pulling a seven metre rib up a slipway with a Prius??

[codprawn]

Don't you mean a Pious??? One of our customers had one - he used to rave about it - now he's driving a Jeep Grand Cherokee - the 6.1 HEMI V8 engine SRT!!!

[Polwart]

Originally Posted by codprawn

Remember many countries like Spain have no road tax -

really - I think you will find that is wrong... ...its a local tax. they also have about 2000km of toll roads.