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Old 13 October 2013, 13:35   #1
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First car.

My eldest lad was 17 on Saturday, and of course wants his first car now he’s learning to drive.

Between us we’ve spent a lot of time looking at different options taking into account:
Insurance.
What he likes the look of.
His 6’2” height.
MPG – he’s at 6th form college 26miles away.
Reliable – As above.
Our/his budget of up to £1K.

Unfortunately a couple of real ‘wants’ for him don’t tick all the boxes.
Suzuki Jimny - Gp 7 insurance and high fuel consumption.
Classic Mini – Cramped for him, expensive, and might not put up with daily milage.
Golf – 1.4 and even 1.6 are reasonable on insurance group but high fuel usage compared with others.
Everything else he likes is out of the £1K budget.

So, all things considered, a Seat Ibiza 1.4 of around 1998 to 2001 is the best compromise, especially in 3 door form.
However every one we see advertised reasonably locally has been sold before we get there.

Anyone have any experience of this car or know of one for sale?

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Old 13 October 2013, 14:06   #3
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My wife has had a Seat Ibiza 1.4 since 2009. It is R reg and has been excellent. only fault we had was the water pump failed which was a cheap fix.

I think it is closely related to a VW Polo? Have you looked at them?
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Thanks guys.

TUFTY, good to know somebody has some good experience of one. The Ibiza is actually a Polo in a different set of clothes but @ 2 insurance groups cheaper engine size for engine size.
It's also quite a good looking little motor and very light compared to others.

Mollers, the Clio is a Group 7 insurance as opposed to the Ibiza's 4, which means several £100 a year more expensive on insurance. The Diesel version of everything we've looked at is not only more expensive to buy but a few insurance groups higher.
Oh and of course, it's a Clio, enough said really.

I can understand that he'd like something that he vaguely wants rather than something that is obvious, crap, or what everybody else has just because it's cheap to insure.

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Fabia?
I thought that, as it's yet another Polo in a different bodyshell.

However, you know what teenagers are like.
Apparently the Ibiza is 'cool' and the Fabia is something your Gran drives.

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The old civic 3 door 1.4 was a modern looking hatch. Surely cheap and low insurance?
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Yip - which means it might be cheaper to insure, and his mates are less likely to all want a ride to the pub in it ;-)

On my 3rd Skoda. (Kind of). Had an 03 Fabia Estate (Deisel) - was good (got b***r all on trade in so should be cheap to buy!). Developed an engine management issue which rather than spend any money investigating (could have been a loose wire for all I know) was conveniently traded in for an Octavia (58) as I was thinking of getting a new car anyway. Sold at 90k miles with no major work outside of warranty (had a gearbox bearing fixed on warranty at 59.9k miles!). While owning the Estate I bought her in doors a 56 Fabia Petrol. I notice the lack of power but she doesn't because she's only ever driven small engines. Her's is cheap to insure. Lack of power is what a 17 year old needs! (I started out on a 900cc Panda)

Her's - never needed anything other than a service, tyres etc. She's only done 35k

Before the Fabia Estate I had an M Reg Ibiza. Had engine management issues on that too! Caused by a dodgy rotor arm/distributor cap I think. It took ages to get a diagnosis.

But I suspect thats just the luck of the draw.

Octavia has been great too but will be too expensive to insure. Had an accelerator cable/sensor (Its fly by wire) done under warranty everything else bog standard stuff.

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The old civic 3 door 1.4 was a modern looking hatch. Surely cheap and low insurance?
You'd think so, but oh no. Gp15

Looked at these only this afternoon.

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