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Old 26 February 2014, 17:25   #21
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A pal of mine has a 2.0 L D passat reckons its great on fuel roughly 500 miles a tank full up 5 persons on board.
How big is the tank????

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I'd avoid ford. Just no durability.
Errr two Fiestas to 160 & 130K respectively, current Focus to 186K.... I guess you got a Friday car!



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Agree with HP again!!! Aaaagh for very good real mpg vehicles Go German..
Mondeo... that'll be the one built in Cologne and half designed in Germany, half in Britain ????

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This might be a useful resource (the Telegraph Motoring agony uncle's "Real MPG" database): Real MPGs | Honest John
Cheers, my poking of Google somehow didn't find that.
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Old 26 February 2014, 17:46   #22
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How big is the tank???? Errr two Fiestas to 160 & 130K respectively, current Focus to 186K.... I guess you got a Friday car! Mondeo... that'll be the one built in Cologne and half designed in Germany, half in Britain ???? Cheers, my poking of Google somehow didn't find that.
Duno I can only dream of such figures unless he is telling porkies I get 350 m out of 75 L in the Defender
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Little bit unfair on the Fords. We have Ford Focus pool cars at work and they're great work horses. The diesel TDCi models are frugal (easily 55mpg), comfortable on long drives, plenty torque, but lack refinement.

If you were looking for an estate, then the VW Passat has to be in the short-list. It's bigger than an Audi A4, has excellent residual value, decent diesel engines with smooth power delivery and enough toys to keep you interested.

I know this isn't in the mix but the Volvo V50 eDrive (up to 2012) is a fantastic car. If you opt for the SE Lux level it comes with leather interior (most comfortable seats I've ever tried), start stop technology, frugal 1.6 diesel engine (should do 65mpg, but is quoted to do 78mpg), 0 road tax, electric sunroof, Sat Nav, LED running lights, folding mirrors, usual safety kit, etc. 2011 examples with 30k miles in region of 14k.
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Old 26 February 2014, 18:30   #24
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I just offloaded my 2011 Fiesta 1.4 tdci with 23k miles, by far the worst car I have owned. Fuel economy was around 44mpg combined, but the worst bit was it leaked. The footwell was an inch deep of a morning, and despite it being under warranty, Ford said that it was only covered for 1 year against leaks.

Google it, it's very common apparently. I wouldn't touch another Ford.
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I wouldn't bother my lad Jonny is driving an old clio 1700 to insure 3 rd party
I was shocked recently at the price of insurance the youth face, my 18yro Daughter passed her test back in January, the cheapest insurace she could find was with those offering the black box option, with more discount if she took the motorway speed awareness course, which she took and passed the other day, so the 11 plate 998cc Suzuki Alto she's been driving round since early Feb has gone from just over 1k pa to under 800 pa, plus she can get a 100 squid discount if the black box shows good driving stats. the car and insurance all registered in her name too. It says in the book the Suzuki should do 75mpg motorway or 52mpg around town.
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If you were looking for an estate, then the VW Passat has to be in the short-list. It's bigger than an Audi A4, has excellent residual value, decent diesel engines with smooth power delivery and enough toys to keep you interested.
It is and I am, but compared to the Mondeos they are like hens' teeth round here.

As a general comment there are lots of frugal 1.6 Diesel versions of cars out there. Thing is it also has to drag my rib around, hence looking at the 2-ish L Diesel arena.
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Is that USA MPG or some made up MPG? That is far better than either of our Prius' get, including our 2013 Prius, and a vehicle that does not have nearly the aerodynamics, and low vehicle weight.

Here in the USA the Prius is the clear winner in MPG and most importantly...reliability. As much as I like German cars, they just can't compete.
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I have had the pleasure of two ford mondeos a 1993 and a 2001 modeks. both petrol both very good. I have heard of a lot of problems with the rwd one though, stick with the fwd models

no one where i live would touch a rwd mondeo
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