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Old 23 December 2006, 20:48   #71
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Has it occured to you that the 'lead' lorry may have come off the gas too because of the sudden shower-causing those who were behind to bunch up as they slowed?
Even if they were originally travelling at a safe distance it takes a while to correct without slamming on the brakes and causing chaos behind you.
Sure... but it's slightly uphill if I remember correctly (after the big bridge).

In theory, the drivers should have planned in advance, and if you feel that you're too close to the vehicle in front, you've got two choices - one involves the brake pedal, and the other one starts with mirror, signal...
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Did you take a photo
No I bloody well didn't! I'm not getting the camera/phone out at speed on wet, unfamiliar motorway! That photo earlier was taken as the lorry had been tailgating me for some while. I had gently accelerated away each time, but it was a bit like that film where the ghostly truck follows a car across the Nevada desert.... is that "Vanishing point"?
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Personally I'd like to see Lorries (7.5 ton or over) banned from B roads, villages, and areas of outstanding natural beauty.

There are very few reasons for vehicles of that size to go on these roads and most of these journeys could be made by vans etc. But only vans that drove sensibly and didn't block the road everywhere they park.

If it meant an increase in prices to maintain some sort of peace then I for one would be prepared to pay for it.

Likewise even though I own a 4 x 4 I would be quite happy to see them banned from town centres.
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even though I own a 4 x 4 I would be quite happy to see them banned from town centres.
Interesting idea!
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Sure... but it's slightly uphill if I remember correctly (after the big bridge).

In theory, the drivers should have planned in advance, and if you feel that you're too close to the vehicle in front, you've got two choices - one involves the brake pedal, and the other one starts with mirror, signal...
Wait for gap as Richard B drives past at 4mph faster than you then maybe pull out if there isn't a string of morons tailgating him by then because they must get 10 feet further even if it kills them...

I'm not saying you did anything wrong here-from a car driver's POV. What I AM saying is that your point of view in a truck is a LOT different and you're not necessarily aware of what they need to do to make yours AND their life easier.

BTW, you're right. It's uphill there. The last thing you want to do in a truck while going up a hill is brake.
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Likewise even though I own a 4 x 4 I would be quite happy to see them banned from town centres.
Why? My Kia is smaller that loads of saloon cars and nearly every Estate cars. We even pay more revenue to government for the privelige of running a 4x4.
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Personally I'd like to see Lorries (7.5 ton or over) banned from B roads, villages, and areas of outstanding natural beauty.

There are very few reasons for vehicles of that size to go on these roads and most of these journeys could be made by vans etc. But only vans that drove sensibly and didn't block the road everywhere they park.

If it meant an increase in prices to maintain some sort of peace then I for one would be prepared to pay for it.

Likewise even though I own a 4 x 4 I would be quite happy to see them banned from town centres.
Hate to say it Nick but we only go to places like that if we have no other option. They are a pain in the arse to drive a truck through narrow roads and villages. It takes up to 30 vans to carry the contents of one artic so even more congestion...
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...because they must get 10 feet further even if it kills them...
Yep, that's sorta the crux of it isn't it.
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Yep, that's sorta the crux of it isn't it.
Yep...

(shoulda said this in prev post) In that situation unfortunately if you're in a truck and you brake going uphill you become an obstruction and a hazard because you shed speed so fast going uphill.
Letting your foot off the throttle a little is usually enough-but that comes with the pitfall of no brake lights-so the guy behind closes up before he realises you've slowed.
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What I AM saying is that your point of view in a truck is a LOT different and you're not necessarily aware of what they need to do to make yours AND their life easier.
Sure... you only have to hire a van for a weekend to realise that exiting lane 1 isn't as straightforward... the loud pedal just don't work as quick, and there's no mercy from the moronic middle - lane hoggers. But many of us car drivers do think about what's happening arond us - but even an alert and considerate car driver will need nearly three seconds to do mirror, signal, check blind spot, then start the manoevure.
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