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Old 06 February 2010, 06:09   #71
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Most re-maps are simply a mechanism - mechanical or electronic - for stuffing more fuel into the engine and then wrapped up in a black box and absurd marketing hype and false promises to justify massive over-pricing. Some of them merely contain a resistor to fool the engine management into thinking the air is colder than what it is so that it fuels more.

The reality is you don't get anything for nothing...automotive engineers spend years calibrating the OEM ECU to provide good driveability, legal or legal + emissions, best fuel consumption, best performance, best refinement and engine/drivetrain robustness. If you want more performance, one or all of the rest have to be compromised. It's usually the tailpipe emissions. The guys that produce most of these kits are not rocket scientists. Hence the clouds of black shit.

You pays your money...
Thats not a remap though, thats a plug in unit.
A remap simply reflashes the ECU.
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Old 06 February 2010, 06:10   #72
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Yes but we're talking about torque here not grip ...........
My old Disco would probably pull that jumbo if I stuck it in low box.
No good having a load of torque if you have no grip.
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My old Disco would probably pull that jumbo if I stuck it in low box.
No good having a load of torque if you have no grip.
It'd probably do it at tickover with no throttle on too...
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It'd probably do it at tickover with no throttle on too...
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OK guys - I never said the Touareg was better than a Landy or anything else off road, and I admit the Jumbo thing was a stunt, but at the end of the day I think it's a great car, and for towing stuff on tarmac they are fantastic, and this isn't an argument over which is the best car, it's about what would be best for Jizm's Mrs - now she may be an off-road nutter, but I'm not getting that impression!
No she isn't, unless you mean the bit of grass outside our house that we sometimes park on! Yes, she will have the final say because if she won't drive it then it's no good to man or beast. 99% of our towing is done on tarmac or at worst, a green slipway.

Just after the best all round package that we are both (she) is happy with.
This must be bearing in mind everything that may be thrown at it, not to mention, living with it day day, running costs etc and all the info that we are getting from here is very valuable because you chaps actually own / drive / pay for your discos, toerags, X5s etc.

Not trying to cause a free for all, just after some experienced, constructive opinions which you are all kindly offering and are greatly appreciated.

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Just after the best all round package that we are both (she) is happy with.
This must be bearing in mind everything that may be thrown at it,
Keep 'em coming, biased or not
but i dont think it comes with parking sensors
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but i dont think it comes with parking sensors
not sure it's gonna need them but does it have a dvd player in the headrest?
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Thats not a remap though, thats a plug in unit.
A remap simply reflashes the ECU.
My point remains...whether it's a resistor that fools the engine management, or a re-map that dumps more fuel in or increases boost or whatever, the end result, inevitably, is black shit out the exhaust.

You don't buy a 'fully' calibrated optimised engine management re-map for £50 or even £200.
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My point remains...whether it's a resistor that fools the engine management, or a re-map that dumps more fuel in or increases boost or whatever, the end result, inevitably, is black shit out the exhaust.

You don't buy a 'fully' calibrated optimised engine management re-map for £50 or even £200.


No, its £250 at the moment, special offer though usually £300-550. The company that I have been involved with, takes the original map off, modify it to suit the drivers style (uses data provided from the original map) and then place it back on. Most reputable company's save the original map, in case the customer requires it back on (usually when selling the car).

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black shit out the exhaust.
then thats unburnt fuel and the remap is no good or the car has developed a fault since the remap has been put on.

I have seen plenty of cars running fine, they get stuck on the rolling road with the remap software running and a fault which has been present is highlighted, (usually the maf sensor) when its replaced the car runs fine, no black shit.
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I have seen plenty of cars running fine
Fair enough...
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