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Old 08 May 2007, 11:02   #11
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I get about 16 - 18 when towing or driving gently - 14 when pushing it. It really is suprising considering I was getting 22mpg out of a Vectra!!!
well i am gobsmacked you can get that mpg out of a v8 landy towing your boat!
was it measured while towing down one of the welsh mountains
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Old 08 May 2007, 11:21   #12
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Managed 8mpg from my 110 V8 towing a rib to Poland

The advantage with the Disco is its more confortable over the 110 and they are much cheaper as there are lots about to choose from.

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Old 08 May 2007, 11:26   #13
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well i am gobsmacked you can get that mpg out of a v8 landy towing your boat!
was it measured while towing down one of the welsh mountains
Not at all - my 110 V8 is a beast - it is ex Police - goes like stink and pretty good on juice as well. I had it tuned and it was pinking like a bitch - richend it up a bit and now it's a dream. Unfortunately it is now in bits being totally rebuilt even though it didn't really need it - Landies have this habit of making you waste valuable time and money on them!!!
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Old 08 May 2007, 16:13   #14
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Just a thought Nasher-have you ever driven a Defender any distance? You're tall and the cab is quite cramped if you have long arms.
I used several 110's for work for about a year and while I loved them as a tool,I had to drive with the window open to give me enough elbow room. It didn't make for a pleasant drive in the winter.
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I've a Defender 110 TD5 for 7 years now. Use it every day. Made a sort of camper in the back. Towing my RIB is peanuts.

I love it very much but there are a few things to consider:
---I'm 1.76m tall and just about fit in it, because with the airco there is not that mucht space.
---Before I used to play classical music in my car, no way in a Defender; to much noise.
---The gearbox is not that good.
---I chipped the engine, but I advise NOT to do that. Extra heat made the exhaust, at the engine side, bend.
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Just thought I'd add my two pennorth for what its worth as I was considering buying a Defender last year. As I have driven many over the years and like them for what they are. Unfortunately for me I just wanted one for about £5000 as a run around. At that price all I could find was wrecks. And as I looked at better and better models I found you were buying some pretty average and abused motors for £10000. For me I would have had to go to a Land Rover dealership to get something I would be happy with which would mean £15000 and upwards. Silly money for a run around so I scrapped that idea. Best of luck with your search and don't expect to do what I expected which is to find a good one for cheap money.
Now Disco's are half the price for the same age as a Defender. But they do seem to suffer from the sort of rust that disapeared in other manufacturers cars in the time period 'Life in Mars' was set in.
Having said that if you find a genuine deal at a good price let me know and I might rekindle my interest in the Defender.

Why not bin all the car like attributes you can get with the upmarket Defenders and go for an ex Army wolf. Its got the TD5 engine and some have front and rear winches. Well cool. trouble is at this time all Wolfs are accident write offs and have been rebuilt.
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Old 08 May 2007, 16:49   #17
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I paid £2500 for my Defender and I love it - the bloke selling it didn't have a clue and thought the gearbox was knackered. It was just the prop shaft UJs - £80 and that's all I have ever needed to spend on it!!! Nobody seems to want V8s - mine is pretty good on juice but get a gas conversion and it's like having your cake and eating it!!!
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Old 08 May 2007, 17:14   #18
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just a thought....i used to drive the old 21/4 21/2 whatever engines they are in the long wheelers and shorties in the forces for years, they did not have power steering and had the fuel tanks under the seats. they were awful to drive for any distance, i expect the modern ones are very nice by comparison but those old ones were pigs in my opinion.
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just a thought....i used to drive the old 21/4 21/2 whatever engines they are in the long wheelers and shorties in the forces for years, they did not have power steering and had the fuel tanks under the seats. they were awful to drive for any distance, i expect the modern ones are very nice by comparison but those old ones were pigs in my opinion.
Like chalk and cheese - coil springs versus leaf(japs and yanks take note). Worst thing of all was the drum brakes all round - scary. They also had selectable 4x4 just like many of the modern jap vehicles.....

First time I drove a Series III I was really shocked just how rough it was. Drove it back from Brum for a mate - by the time I had got it home I had fallen in love with it. We named it Monty and the kids loved it in Cammo.

The old ones were much tougher - you could steam clean the inside as well as the outside. No need for silly checkerplate wing protectors etc - the metal was much thicker. The old doors are much better than the new ones which is why the Army still use Series doors on the Wolf. Best of all the winch was behind the front bumper - a much better place for it.

It is suprising just how good the old ones are. Did anyone see the Top Gear test where all the modern top 4x4s got stuck but the old Series I just ploughed past them - classic!!!
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the lightweights were ok even great but the old long wheelies were awful, especially in 4wd turning from lock to lock on rough ground, take your thumbs/fingers off if not careful

i would have a lightweight for off road days if one came along at the right price
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