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Old 16 June 2004, 05:11   #21
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And I had you down as a Louis Vuitton man!!
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I wish you'd stop covertly sneaking around in cyberspace, Richard. You're not showing online and it's very disconcerting.
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Couldn't help but add a little something as I work for Volvo

XC70 is better priced/spec'd than Audi
Is just as good off road
Is outselling Audi all road

Safety may be boring but forgetting everything else, when you have an accident I know where I would rather be - ask any real world collision investigator (not NCAP). Volvo wipes the floor. If you have kids, this must be the overiding factor.

XC90 is the safest car in the world, by a huge margin - Fact
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Couldn't help but add a little something as I work for Volvo

XC70 is better priced/spec'd than Audi
Is just as good off road
Is outselling Audi all road

Safety may be boring but forgetting everything else, when you have an accident I know where I would rather be - ask any real world collision investigator (not NCAP). Volvo wipes the floor. If you have kids, this must be the overiding factor.

XC90 is the safest car in the world, by a huge margin - Fact
I'm not old enough for a Volvo yet... I'm only 72

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You may be interested to read what 'Car' magazine has to say about the Audi Allroad:

For: Good off-road
Against: Otherwise pointless
Sum up: Gymkhana car park


Audis are well built, I agree, but overpriced for what they are - would you pay 3K more for a VW Golf badged as an Audi A3? Unfortunately in the brand-obsessed culture we live in, there are enough sad people who will and who enable Audi to charge premium prices for their products. Having said that, the same philosophy ensures Audi will always lag behind BMW and Mercedes in the corporate car park.

ps. I drive a new Range Rover V8, Gazza.
I thought as much !!!!!!
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Safety may be boring but forgetting everything else, when you have an accident I know where I would rather be - ask any real world collision investigator (not NCAP). Volvo wipes the floor. If you have kids, this must be the overiding factor.

XC90 is the safest car in the world, by a huge margin - Fact
How can you make such sweeping statements?

I wonder how such a vehicle would fare being rammed by a Land Rover or a Hummer?

Into a concrete block yes you would be better off in the Volvo but not against one of these monsters! I have seen the results of a series III land rover with NO driver protection - not even seat belts - get rammed by a large Merc - the Merc had airbags the lot - the Land Rover driver drove home = the Merc driver had to go to hospital and the car was totally mangled.

You quite rightly mention NCAP type tests as not being real world - totally agree there - they only test vehicles in similar catagories.

Here are some crash tests of similar cat cars - they show the Volvo as being no better than several other vehicles in it's class


http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/NCAP/Cars/2004SUVs.html
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