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Old 29 April 2007, 04:17   #71
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Both vans ARE the SAME tax class that is why i brought them (you dont think i havent looked into this all already do you?)
& DVLA have admitted this point but they cannot work out why when they put it into there system it come's out dearer, the annoying part is that they cant expain why & they wont do anything about it.
well your original post implied it IS related to the seats making them different - therefore seems reasonable to assume they are NOT the same tax class.

Whilst civil servants are not known for being proactive or necessarily going out of their way to be helpful - I am surprised they aren't willing to investigate if their is an Admin error - IF they are the same tax class on the V5 UNLESS OF COURSE YOU HAVE GONE IN SHOUTING AND SCREEMING LIKE YOU DID HERE.

Sorry - I assumed you were looking for an explanation/discussion (this being a discussion forum) as to WHY the two virtually identical vehicles might be being treated differently - rather than just looking for somewhere to rant - JK prefers you to take that to www.wtf.com .

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All i want is the people that i have paid money to ie: DVLA not my local MP or anyone else, to give a good reason why they are charging me more for the same job. If there is a problem with the system it wont go away by just 'letting it go' & it should be sorted out for everyone not just me,
I agree - if there is an error the DVLA are the people to sort it out. But i still suspect there is no error - just an artefact of complicated rules.

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however if it is down to how many people can sit in the van then it is not EMMISSION's rated & they should admit to it dont you think,
You are reading the headlines not the rules....

...see here: http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...le/DG_10012524

what you need to do is find how they divide the Tax Class (TC) between TC49, TC39, TC36.

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Ok F##k IT, ill bang the £100.00 on the next customers bill.....but then ill have to pay extra tax on that too so ill have to charge even more than the £100.00 to make it up so im not out of pocket & as our goverment see's fit to put me in the 40% tax bracket, to get my original £100.00 back ill have to charge the best part of £200 inc vat to brake even!!!!! SO THERE IS ONLY ONE WINNER & IT IS NOT THE AVERAGE JO IS IT!!!! so the system stinks & tomorrow? well it will only get worse the longer the public let um get away with it who knows what will happen, i feel sorry for my kids, what a great country they are growing up in......well used to be! We where once world leaders in Industry/Innovation now we are the world leaders of Benifit/Taxation/Immigration. Labour brought in unions & destroyed our heavy industry/export now they are seeking to brake the common man to.....
This is only my opinion & this is the way i see it....my expirience started as an apprentice boiler maker for a ship yard that no longer exists....
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Ok F##k IT, ill bang the £100.00 on the next customers bill.....but then ill have to pay extra tax on that too so ill have to charge even more than the £100.00 to make it up so im not out of pocket & as our goverment see's fit to put me in the 40% tax bracket, to get my original £100.00 back ill have to charge the best part of £200 inc vat to brake even!!!!! SO THERE IS ONLY ONE WINNER & IT IS NOT THE AVERAGE JO IS IT!!!!
You don't do any work for government departments/agencies/buildings do you? Would seem like a good opportunity for "cost recovery".
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yeah - but with a tax bill of £58k p.a., a rib and cayenne your obviously not doing too badly for yourself either
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You don't do any work for government departments/agencies/buildings do you? Would seem like a good opportunity for "cost recovery".
Some of that is my money! Why should I finance part of Spike's road fund licence?
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Would seem like a classic case of 'Devide and Conquer'

We are all fighting amongst ourselves whilst GB sits in his castle counting his pennies.
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yeah - but with a tax bill of £58k p.a., a rib and cayenne your obviously not doing too badly for yourself either
Thats as may be.. but when you work hard to build something from the ground up, you get very annoyed at pathetic governance that only tries to milk you dry of every pound you make, and put regular obstacles in the way of your progress, the same progress by taxation, that puts pound notes in the salary packets of the muppets that run this country.

There is a distinct malaise about taxation in this country at the moment, VAT and TAX investigations are rampant as GB tries to claw all he can from every source available.. and the honest tax payer is guilty until he can prove himself innocent meanwhile the black economy rolls on unabated.. and thats from the mouth of a VAT inspector, whilst I made him a cup of tea, as he rifled through my files looking for faults...
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Thats as may be.. but when you work hard to build something from the ground up, you get very annoyed at pathetic governance that only tries to milk you dry of every pound you make, and put regular obstacles in the way of your progress, the same progress by taxation, that puts pound notes in the salary packets of the muppets that run this country.
I completely agree - but I just find it slightly ironic when people claim to have "come from nothing" and "work every hour god sends" etc but are making plenty of money out of it (even if a good proportion of that is creamed off by GB).
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You don't do any work for government departments/agencies/buildings do you? Would seem like a good opportunity for "cost recovery".

Yes we do as it happens, but we have to do it on a 'book of rates' & the clerk of works checks it off, so they still win...

yeah - but with a tax bill of £58k p.a., a rib and cayenne your obviously not doing too badly for yourself either
When I left school the only thing i past was religious education (c+) i failed at everything else (nothing to be proud of i know), i did my apprenticeship & left as the yard closed, then went from job to job (not doing to well so far am i?) i moved to carlisle to work on a hotel refurb the forman told me i was a usless tw#t & go & work in Macdonalds (still not doing too well!!)....this really p###ed me off so i moved back to dorset & applyed myself, met a bird (now wife) within 2 years i was a manager of a large national HVAC company, the guy that owned it (a great man, taught me loads about life & how it only gives to those who work hard for it) he had a hart attack & wanted to give it all up & retire, so i started up on my own (with about £1800.00 all i could muster up at the time) that was fourteen years ago, now the company is doing very well yes but it dident happen over night it is down to the amount of time i have put into it over the years, my wife & kids live in dorset i work away 6 days a week in london & 1 from home with a very supportive wife, it is only now that i can sit back a little & enjoy family life a little more. So i dont claim to have come from nothing.....I DID, & am now very proud of my achivements in life through hard work & no i dont like the tax man taking money from me but who does & i dont like being a gloryfied vat collector ether for that matter. I am not claiming to be unusual, I expect this story is same for countless self employed people around the uk that worked bloody hard & got it right in the end just to have people say 'he's making plenty of money, he's got nothing to moan about'.......'money' is the only reason i do it mate, do you think i like getting cold & wet mending leaks/covered in other peoples sh#t clearing there drains/mending boilers for people at 2am!!!! no its so i can give my kids a better start to life than i had & to maybe retire a little before 50 so i can enjoy what i have built up & maybe buy a bigger RIB . Anyway im fed up with all this now so lets talk about something else like....AVOIDING CAR TAX has anyone ever fitted a 1965 landy chassie & engine to a new VW transporter?
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Took a look at the Transits at work today. They are all taxed the same. Whether they are empty backs for load carrying only, partially seated with just one row of seats in the back and a space for carrying stuff or fully seated with loads of seats.
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I knew i was being shafted! Bast##ds!
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