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Old 01 May 2007, 09:53   #21
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However I am guessing that the driver of the wrecked Audi is pleased he bought his numb, electronicaly controlled and unraw car rather than a Caterham. Had he gone for the 'real' car he would not be walking or talking today.
Not necessarily - he may have been so scared he would have slowed right down.

Research in Germany and Austria has found that drivers of 4wd cars with fancy traction control and ABS etc are actually MORE likely to have a bad accident as they think they can safely drive like idiots. A mate of mine discovered that in a Porsche Cayenne in Austria - he would have been better of in an old Land Rover!!!
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Not compared to a Series III it isn't!!!

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I have found that this kind of car leaves you too isolated from what's going on - they have very high limits but you just don't feel them approaching and when they let go they do - big style.
Cant make out which version is in bits in the photo, but I own the RS6 Avant version...dont agree with you codders, the limits are higher, but you definitely feel them approaching, its just in a different manner to 2WD cars. Unless you're into serious drifting or are buying a porker, 4WD wins hands down for me...

edit: just relooked at carnage, looks like the avant...
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No but would love a champ - 5 speeds in reverse as well as forwards!!!
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No but would love a champ - 5 speeds in reverse as well as forwards!!!
Is that an Italian Army one ?
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Research in Germany and Austria has found that drivers of 4wd cars with fancy traction control and ABS etc are actually MORE likely to have a bad accident as they think they can safely drive like idiots. A mate of mine discovered that in a Porsche Cayenne in Austria - he would have been better of in an old Land Rover!!!
That will because the laws of physics are still apply... however with 4wd you just raise the point where you lose grip. and as you are not doing a Tiff in a Morris going at 15mph sideways you have a BIG prang not a small one.

Codders RS4 as you said nice but if you want raw go looking for a RS2
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That will because the laws of physics are still apply... however with 4wd you just raise the point where you lose grip. and as you are not doing a Tiff in a Morris going at 15mph sideways you have a BIG prang not a small one.

Codders RS4 as you said nice but if you want raw go looking for a RS2
Well I hope to build myself an Ultima Can Am one day....

http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/
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Well I hope to build myself an Ultima Can Am one day....

http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/
as soon as I manage to get some free time and the space going to call these boys http://www.proteuscars.com/protctype10.htm
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Would love a D type but the ultimate Jag has to be an xj13. I did see not long ago the stunning xj220 - it was in a backstreet garage in Swansea having a new racing clutch fitted - what a car!!!
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I think you are all missing the point lads, It hit a frigging tree!

I think they should be making cars out of trees by the look of it.
They take the impact better. I bet he came back and cut the bloody thing down, expensive tree!!!!

He probably had two broken legs but got out and walked, called for a taxi and took the plates of the car to allow more time to sober up.

If that was a company car and I was boss, his next would be a bus pass.

In any event, on a more serious note, the fool could have killed others.
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