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Old 28 January 2007, 09:06   #1
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Any kit car experts? Ford Magic

Me mate mike has this old kit car that we plan to do up. Its a Ford Magic and we think it might be based on an escort chassis. Can't find any info on the net at all so was wondering if anyone on here might know anything?

We think it either has a 1.6 engine or a 2 litre racing tuned cosworth in it, but don't yet know which one it is...stupid question: how do we tell?!

Any info anyone could give on the car, or just about doing it up would be appreciated.

Cheers

Tim
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Old 28 January 2007, 09:25   #2
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that's kinda cool!

C'mon codders this is your moment!

If he can't help try this site

http://uk.noddy.com/site/ I think you'll see a picture of it in the bottom left corner. Sorry Tim Couldn't help it!
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http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/foru...read.php?t=290

Magic, in production in 94 Scorhill Motor Co, Units 41-43 Enterprise House,
44/46 Terrace Rd, Walton on Thames, Surrey KT12 2SD Tel 0932 254 005.

95, at The Coachworks,Colonels Lane, Chertsey, Surrey KT16 8RH Tel 01932 566
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member of ASCM.

Disappears in 96,

not found on the companies house register.

Very little info out there - you have a rare one!!!

Try contacting this bloke

http://www.geocities.com/taoist_goth/jcoleman.htm

He used to have one - along with a load of other kit cars.

http://www.geocities.com/taoist_goth/jcoleman.htm

7th photo down - just see the arse end of it!!!

That's me done - attention span decreasing rapidly......
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Me mate mike has this old kit car that we plan to do up. Its a Ford Magic and we think it might be based on an escort chassis. Can't find any info on the net at all so was wondering if anyone on here might know anything?

We think it either has a 1.6 engine or a 2 litre racing tuned cosworth in it, but don't yet know which one it is...stupid question: how do we tell?!

Any info anyone could give on the car, or just about doing it up would be appreciated.

Cheers

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Hi
the engine you have there is the ford 2 ltr ghia engine with twin choke webber carbs as used in escort mk11ghia, cortina ghia, capri ghia,

i am not sure but i believe some early escort mk111s may have been rwd the reason i say this is the chassis you have there is not a mk11 escort unless the front suspension has been heavily modified which i doubt.
so may be a mk111 during the crossover to fwd.
if it doesnt have cosworth on it it probably isnt as the cozzy engines were
mostly turbos. it may however be a mexico.
this doesnt matter much the 2 ltr is a good strong engine.with the webbers.
when i was a boy this is the kind of engine that would see off nearly everthing else except the v6.
should be an easy project for you.
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the name for that type of engine is a "pinto"
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cool thanks guys, sounds like you know your stuff about ford engines! You have any other useful info/advice? Like how do we increase the grunt The carbs are indeed webbers, there are loads of spare carbs lying around as well.

It seems from cods searching that it is actually a scorhill magic and based on a ford cortina (i think). Here's a pic of a shiney one:

http://www.dutton-club.de/images/member/194/194_3.jpg

Rogue , funny you say that as apparently it was dressed up as a noddy car in the carnival some years ago
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Tim your problem won't be a lack of hp more who you are going to insure her with. That car will weigh about 500kgs and you can probably lift the back end up on your own, so superb ower to weight ratio. I had a Dutton Phaeton with a 2 litre Vitesse many years ago and ended up insuring her with Adrian Flux,

http://www.adrianflux.co.uk/kit-cars-detail-go.php

Check the wiring carefully, with a GRP body it will have earth as well as positive wires, just like a rib.

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More grunt hmm... electronic ignition is a good start fit that.
webbers like piper filters or k&n if on a budget dont forget to rejet the carbs.
powerflo exhaust ....all that should give you about 25 / 30 extra horses maybe more if the lump is a good'n you could re cam if your serious and double that to an extra 60/70 hp if done by a real pro.
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Old 28 January 2007, 13:48   #9
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Could always rebore to 2.1, the pinto was a good engine for that.
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For extra power you want a set of Side draught DCOE twin 40 Weber carbs with this manifold and a fast road cam (a decent head and fast road cam would be better though if you're really serious. Stick a good 4-branch manifold on too.
Anything bigger than twin 40's will mean serious engine work to get it to rev high enough to develope power without going bang.

But in all fairness you'd get better results and drivability if you bought a scrap Sierra Sapphire 2.0glsi and stuck that engine and injection system in (it'll bolt up to the box without too much hassle).


The engine in the car at the moment will die quite fast if you run it on unleaded btw-they don't have hardened valve seats-they are so soft you can seat the valves on a pinto with a hammer if you know how hard to hit them...
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