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Old 10 November 2012, 07:10   #11
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Beat me to it:

Brake energy recuperation:
Every time the car brakes, kinetic energy is converted into electricity and stored in the battery. Which means, just the act of braking recharges the battery. Now, the more you brake, the further you can go.


The energy it saves over its lifetime would probably not cover the manufacture of the extra cr*p to make it work. Must be needed for the stop/start system which can only be worth while for regular urban use. Totally pointless for a 4WD being used properly IMHO. Just more stuff to go wrong.

The irony of using such a system to launch something that burns 10 gph to turn money into noise!

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Old 10 November 2012, 07:25   #12
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The energy it saves over its lifetime would probably not cover the manufacture of the extra cr*p to make it work
It's "Me Too" technology known as Greenwash in the industry. Looks good in the brochure, f@@k all use in a total cost sense as you point out.

WTF quote "The more you brake the further you can go". Yeah, right. Which half wit came up with that greenwash. A classic quote of the WEAK.
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Must be needed for the stop/start system which can only be worth while for regular urban use. Totally pointless for a 4WD being used properly IMHO. Just more stuff to go wrong.

The irony of using such a system to launch something that burns 10 gph to turn money into noise!

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Rant on the way. I HATE stop/start systems. Got the damned nuisance on the new Audi; the manual says that even if you only stop for 30 to 40 seconds it will save fuel - so the inference is that if you are stopped for less than that it will actually cost fuel. Checked out during my normal driving; almost never stopped for 30 seconds at a time - what a sop to the greenies
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What about the ford ranger 3.2 with a 6 speed auto
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On fifth gear they tested a stop start system in Birmingham - after a while it stopped working as the battery had got down to a level it wasn't happy with because of all of the stop starting!
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Old 12 November 2012, 05:30   #16
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I've heard nothing bad about the Amarok's as yet and a friend of mine is the warranty manager at the local VW dealer.
They're big old beasts as well.....
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I fitted freewheeling hubs to my 4x4. No worries about winding up the transmission then in low range.
You cannot fit free wheeling hubs to a modern 4x4 the ECU's are designed to calculate each wheel and adjust to compensate any slippage or skidding. Even if one tyre is worn the car will drive like crap. Alan P express gearbox company automatic transmisson experts
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after a while it stopped working as the battery had got down to a level it wasn't happy with because of all of the stop starting!
Mrs M's Mini does that.

Too many short trips says Ocean BMW. The S/Start feature is shite.
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Mrs M's Mini does that.

Too many short trips says Ocean BMW. The S/Start feature is shite.
Aye, more f'kin greenwash
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Alan,

Would an auto box do completely away with the need for low ratio for boat recovery type activities i.e. needed for a relatively short period up a ramp or steep incline before going back to normal road use rather than extended proper offroad type work.

Only experience towing with an auto was when the Nav front wheel bearings disintegrated coming back from ERR 2011. AA took the Nav on a flatbead and I used the wife's XC90 to tow the RIB home. Seemed great even with 6 in the car going through the highlands but I did not try a really steep hill standing start like I have where I launch at Peterhead or at the Inn at Dores, Loch Ness.

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