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Old 13 September 2011, 15:53   #11
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In my opinion look to the far East Lexus IS250 auto superb cruiser jap reliability great styling comfort and practical despite the previous problems they have had with over zealous reporting of problems,many other manufacturers have recall faults but its not publisized
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Keep your money to keep your Defender on the road, cos you won't want the proposed new one.!!!!! They haven't a clue..groan!
Quote from John Edwards, LR global brand director, at the Frankfurt Show this week..."Some of us were involved with the Mini project, and we encountered some 'attitudes' (to change) back then. But we soon learned that although these people deserved a hearing, they were a very small minority. There's a great case for a modern product, and the Mini helped show us the way"

TWO new Defender concepts shown at Frankfurt...one labelled 'Tool', one labelled 'Cool'...and from the same guys that brought us the FFRR, RRS, Disco and Evoque. Hugely desirable, hugely successful, hugely profitable...

Live off past performance and go under or evolve for the future and prosper?

Looks good to me LR
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That's what everyone is saying - it looks like the new Mini an abortion of design to quote one car designer and to summarise others. The DC100 is nowhere near the final incarnation apparently and better LR mock ups have been seen with more of the 60 year iconic characteristics. They are listening to the public now after the initial negative response. As well as design it's also about functionality, being able to take it to war, stick a cheery picker on the back, take it on expeditions, do the school run,whack on a PTO, fork poo in the back etc. You can't do that with a RAV4/mini incarnation.

The Series/Defender etc is the most versatile vehicle and this is why it has lasted so long, nobody can come up with anything different. What they are proposing to produce is something that the gaylander and Disco already do, it's just another car! Tata have already said the Defender will carry on in production for years in India as there is still demand for such versatility. Others will just have to buy a tractor/van/camper/trailer etc etc...

Agreed the current LR range look superb
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it looks like the new Mini
OMG: Which is which?




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Old 14 September 2011, 12:20   #15
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I wouldn't touch any of the Saabs built since they became part of GM.

I'd be looking at a 2006 BMW 530i (E60) with 50k miles around the 10-11k mark. Awesome car, I have the same engine in my Z4 and it is a cracker.
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Getting back on topic....



Lot of BMW recommendations - might have to re-consider the fuel type - as a driver for 20 years of petrol cars (as I say my only diesel experience is Landys with old school diesel tech) how do the typical 4 cylinder 3 series diesels drive compared to the BMW petrols - seems the vast majority I'm finding in searches are diesels..

Really as long as it's comfortably sub 10 sec 0-60 with good overtaking grunt I'll be happy - which 3 series engine would people suggest?

Other issue is the pot-holed cart tracks our UK roads have become - again which model/set-up/wheel/tyre combo will give me some comfort?

To be honest I'm planning to go no bigger than the 3 series as nice as 5's are.
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If a comfortable ride is a priority then I stick to an SE spec with either 16 or 17" wheels. I think the 05 on 3 series may have been specced with runflat tyres too and these don't help. M-Sport makes it much firmer still.

I have 18" wheels and M-sport suspension on a z4 and I ditched the runflats all together and carry a space saver I picked up on ebay in the boot if I do any long trips. The improvement was very noticeable.

I'm sure from what you say a 320d would provide the performance you are looking for along with about 45mpg. If you are doing low mileage then I'd not discount a 325i or even 330i. They may use about 1 3rd more fuel but are silky smooth, sound great and are probably cheaper to buy than a equivalent 320d.

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Obviously a new gen 335d. Twin turbo unit! Small for instant pick up, then large for even more. Though you won't get one for 15k

I just got the 320d 184bhp 4cyl. 142mph, 0-60 7.5 60mpg on the combined cycle if careful, 48mpg average over 600 miles ive driven so far!!!! plenty of punch and if you chipped it to 210bhp for 300 it would be sub 7 sec. The 50-70 speed is awesome!

Petrols are cheap to buy, smooth as silk, but impossible to sell, expensive to insure and Tax too!

M sport suspension is fine after 05 when they introduced the lifecycle improvement/new generation/facelift. Spotted by sculpted bonnet and red rear lights. Before then, bit bumpy with 18's. Fine now even with runflats.
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Max, I don't believe that autos have dual mass flywheels, or have I misunderstood and is that the reason you want an auto? Anyway, I've always been more concerned about having a cam chain rather than a poly V-belt, like in my old 1976 Saab 99 which was my best car ever, until...

My Calibra 24v which was written off by a blue-van-driver in 2006, and then my E46 BMW 330i M-sport coupe, which is better still!

As mentioned the 3.0 is super-smooth. But not expensive to insure, I'm paying about 330/yr with Bell for fully comp. Does about 25mpg and I floor it everywhere.

Handling is fantastic. I don't think they fitted runflats until the E90 series arrived in 2006 but I could be wrong! Also the chassis and handling upgrade came in 2001 with a mild facelift in 2004 which gave LED rear lights and a slightly re-shaped front lights, bonnet, wings and side repeaters, but no chassis or suspension change as far as I know.

My worst ever cars were the Sierra 1.8TD (although the two Mondeos I've had subsequently have been faultless) and the Mercedes E280. I'm not mentioning the Rover 114.
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You need a volvo v70 "R".

When I had one a few years ago it was just such a sorted peice of kit in every way. Being a fast AWD I replaced both sports car and rangie in one.

15k would buy you a nice one I suspect.
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