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Old 15 October 2012, 16:40   #41
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I think , all on all, it depends on your objectives. Either all the way forward, or all the way back will give you the most room to work with. A couple of feet can make a big difference though. There have been times where my girlfriend has been sitting in front of the console and it's gotten rough. Moving just the 3 ft back and standing next to me makes a big difference.

With that said, the middle seems like a good compromise in my Willard. Two people can still sleep up in from (I'm 6'4), and there's room in back.

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Would anybody have any suggestions on how far forward I can (or should) move the console before it gets to a point where the ride is less nice for the guy driving? I'm thinking now that maybe ill just chop the low section off the front of the console and move it up that much, 2' forward. That would makes for a larger back passenger area and better deck space. The alternative is to cut a foot or so out so its more proper bench size. Either way I want it have the front of the console open big to access below decks storage.
"Larger passenger area to the rear"
Are you going to get rid of the storage box and go with a flat deck? Plenty of room aft then for a bench seat for that.

This guy in North Carolina took out the box, added a standard leaning post and bench seat behind:
http://www.rib.net/forum/attachment....8&d=1322518201

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Yeah. I've seen the dive models with the console all the way up so i know it can be done. I was wondering if there was a noticeable subjective difference in the ride as I move forward. The front usually tries to bounce you out and it gets more mellow as you move back.
I was in the dive model all weekend - Catalina/Santa Barbara Island trip. Yes, it can be very rough up there depending on how you drive!

The console was WAY forward like this:
http://www.rib.net/forum/attachment....4&d=1237301645

But, I've read that by putting the operator as far up as possible, it makes them more aware of how they are driving. If they put he operator in back, he's doesn't feel the bumps the same way and tends to beat the crap out of the passengers who in this case would be the insertion team, etc.


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The front of these boats just have a lot of toe breakers up there. I might try to pull some of the tie down loops but I think the lifting eyes stay and everything else protruding pales in comparison.
I stub my toes ALL the time!!! 99% of the time I'm barefoot or in flip flop. Besides the stuff up in front, I have the inside row of bolts to contend with. I don't remember, do you have the Zodiac hull where the bolts are down or Willard style where they're horizontal? I would love to have my bolts facing down...
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Old 15 October 2012, 22:43   #42
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ok, I have typed up a couple responses and it comes down to seating and storage. I have two conflicting seating issues. I will use the boat to free and scuba dive off of and also tube on lakes with the family and family friends.

For diving related activities I would like plenty of deck space and seating for max of 4 or 5 passengers. In diving we'll be in rougher conditions and I suspect that the front of the boat is not were people will want to be. For tubing i need comfy seating for up to 8-10. For lake days with lots of people I would like something like my current RIB that has a large raised padded area in the front 1/3 or more of the deck. Everyone sprawls on it like a big couch.

I need storage for spearguns that are about 6' long. I would like some below decks storage to put fish in fish-bags. I have moved away from space for a very large cooler or a built in one as fish bags sound popular and it's not an every weekend thing.

I would like to have a leaning post with space for a cooler and/or tank racks. I would like tank storage somewhere if not there.

I would like a more substantial boarding ladder. I have considered a flip up bench in the back. I have read that marine grade beanbags are popular in some circles.

I would like all of that in one boat.

So I guess you all have helped me make progress, I have a list of what I want. The slate just got less blank.

You got any more pictures of the boat in No. Carolina?

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I need storage for spearguns that are about 6' long. I would like some below decks storage to put fish in fish-bags. I have moved away from space for a very large cooler or a built in one as fish bags sound popular and it's not an every weekend thing.

I would like to have a leaning post with space for a cooler and/or tank racks. I would like tank storage somewhere if not there.

I would like a more substantial boarding ladder. I have considered a flip up bench in the back. I have read that marine grade beanbags are popular in some circles.

You got any more pictures of the boat in No. Carolina?

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Note that some of the pictures in the ad don't show everything (i.e. one pic shows the spear gun racks, one pic doesn't. Also, the swim step and the rear bench doesn't appear in the ad, but the attached picture does)

I love the functionality of that hard top but I wonder about weight. Surfboards on top, spearguns stowed underneath, extra tanks on the back, etc.
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Old 19 October 2012, 22:20   #44
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put a little glass on the transom hole. Have a bit of sanding to do.

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But, I've read that by putting the operator as far up as possible, it makes them more aware of how they are driving. If they put he operator in back, he's doesn't feel the bumps the same way and tends to beat the crap out of the passengers who in this case would be the insertion team, etc.
Hmmm. As a boat driver, who cares?

Seriously, when things get rough, I worry not just about passengers comfort, but abuse of the boat. I have throttled way back from how I used to drive; enough so that even my passengers have started thanking me for taking it easy. Not sure if that's really good or bad though...


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My boat has a rear bias console, yesterday I did a 60 Nm run through 1/2 meter short sharp confused chop at 30 Kts. I would have said that the ride was excellent and effort was about 3 out of 10.
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exciting pictures (to me). This is what my transom looks like without a huge hole in it!!

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well I got some crushing news today that explains why not so many people have done the OB conversion. the material needed to make the OB bracket was about twice as expensive as I was expecting. Sigh, I have to stop focusing on the quote and focus on the difference, it's a lot but less than the whole....

Anybody got some spare 1/2" 5086 aluminum plate laying around?

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Fiberglass? Ryan Pratts guy is ~$3k for a full flotation bracket. Though, I bet you could do it yourself. You seems pretty handy, you have the yard space, and you already know how to work with fiberglass.
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i actually emailed Ryan's guy and unfortunately they were one (or two) off molds. Also being on opposite sides of the country didn't make it sound like a good option.

Building something like that out of fiberglass is above my pay grade. I don't know what I am doing with fiberglass, I am just faking it. It's one thing to patch a hole, it's another to fabricate a custom molded engine bracket.

Finding a local guy to fabricate one out of fiberglass won't save me anything over the AL one.

Like I said, I see why this isn't done more often. Boy I wish I had a job with overtime....

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