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Old 21 October 2006, 11:32   #51
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The key danger of the Bristol Channel is the constantly shifting sand and mud, which causes the shipping channels to migrate. Also the extremely fast tides, cause a lot of sailing dinghies to get in to trouble when the winds are low, as they find themselves drifting out to sea!

both these factors are due to the high tidal range

If you think the Britsol Channel itself is bad you should see the Lougher/Burry estuary - it's a nightmare. Easy enough in my RIB but wouldn't fancy using a sailing boat there. You can be 5 miles out and in 6' of water!!! In fact you can sometimes get out and walk......
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Old 21 October 2006, 13:24   #52
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Nope we actually have a longer coastline!!!


this site claims UK is 19,000 km, and USA 133,000 km : http://earthtrends.wri.org/text/coas...riable-61.html


Wikipedia claims UK is ~ 12600 km,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_coastline and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geograp...gdom#Coastline

and US is 19,924 km http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geograp..._United_States

the CIA factbook (where I usually look for useful/useless country statistics) has similar although slightly different numbers: https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications...k/geos/uk.html and
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications...k/geos/us.html

even the most "Generous" estimates for the UK are shorter than the most conservative for the US!

Also not convinced it is a good argument. Look at ribnet, their are far more ribs on the relatively straight south coast than there are on the west coast, outerhebrides or nothern isles all of which have far greater coast lines (per region, per capita, per land area or however you want to describe it).

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Didn't you see my later post with the revised figures??? My source was also the CIA factbook amongst others. They used to be quoted as the UK being longer but they had excluded Alaska!!!
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Didn't you see my later post with the revised figures??? My source was also the CIA factbook amongst others. They used to be quoted as the UK being longer but they had excluded Alaska!!!
sorry cod - I hadn't finished reading the thread, and hadn't got to your retraction/correction. However, Manos might be on shortly pointing out that your latest claim (UK longest in Europe) doesn't fit with the "facts" either! As might the various Ribnetters in Norway!
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sorry cod - I hadn't finished reading the thread, and hadn't got to your retraction/correction. However, Manos might be on shortly pointing out that your latest claim (UK longest in Europe) doesn't fit with the "facts" either! As might the various Ribnetters in Norway!
Did read it somewhere but fair point!!!
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Alaska Included

Alaska has more coastline than the contiguous united states or "lower 48", and should not be included. Either they don't like us, they think were frozen all of the time, or want to come visit, all of which are undesireable traits.
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P.S. Are there any alaska ribbers out there other than me? I would like to find one.
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Just rechecked the figures and they have changed tghe way they are measured. Apparently the US figures USED to exclude Alaska but not any more.

The new figures are 7706m for the Uk and 12352m for the USA - still not bad for a very small country and the longest in Europe.

Hope you are joking on the last comment or do Yanks REALLY believe it???
I think the U.S. and Britain saved everybody else's ass if you really want my opinion...one country in particular not far from your east coast comes to mind...
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I think the U.S. and Britain saved everybody else's ass if you really want my opinion...one country in particular not far from your east coast comes to mind...
You are SO right - along with our Commonwealth allies of course!!!
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Perhaps, but at 202,080 km, we have you both whooped!

http://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/site/englis...ergeneral.html
And that does not consider the multitude of smaller inland lakes Canada abounds with, you guys definitely win the prize for the most, no doubt!
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Alaska has more coastline than the contiguous united states or "lower 48", and should not be included. Either they don't like us, they think were frozen all of the time, or want to come visit, all of which are undesireable traits.
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P.S. Are there any alaska ribbers out there other than me? I would like to find one.
Jimmy, you just have to deal with being the one to lead all other Alaskans out of the darkness regarding ribs, someone has to do it! I do think one of those nice cabin ribs such as a Protector would be great for your neck of the woods... head to the Aleutians for a hunt, bring it back on the aft deck... heck, it would be great for my neck of the woods!
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