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Old 10 June 2015, 12:22   #1
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Why doesn't everyone paint their tubes?

I've owned three boats with tubes the last 10 years, which I've always kept covered.
I'm now looking to purchase what I consider the Holy Grail of ribs, the 7M.
Every one that I've looked at so far appears to be ex government or military.
Most have tubes that are slightly to extremely sunburnt.
The boat I'm looking at right now, is civilian owned, and they've painted the tubes, and it looks pretty good.
I can understand that the government probably doesn't care about the lifespan of the tubes being extended by painting them, but why wouldn't somebody who owned one of these for recreational use, not just paint the tubes to extend the life?
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Because its cosmetic and might not actually extend the tube life?
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It's a cosmetic band aid and is not a very durable solution.

Plus, it is one more thing to remove when I patch the boat.

I'd rather just retube.
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More like Why WOULD You?!!!
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More like Why WOULD You?!!!
To make it look better before you sell it ;-)
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To make it look better before you sell it ;-)
If they need paint....IMO....They really need replacing
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Everyone in Europe must be made of money...

"just retube!"

That just doesn't make economic sense. Used diesel ex-Navy 7.3m Willards have been selling for $28,000 - $40,000 depending on the level of detail during the restoration and the accessories. When a new set of Wing PU tubes for made to military spec are $14,000, which is ~1/2 the price of buying the boat, most people will patch and paint. Paint can be done very well and can last 3-5 years. A gallon of Techthane from Wing is $300 (as of the last time I bought some). As for resale, say my Willard is worth $28,000 - it has painted tubes. If I were to buy and install new tubes for $14,000, would I be able to sell it for $42,000?

Look at the awesome boats that Ryan Pratt has redone - many times, he's just painted the tubes.

Also, there seem to be a few more used tubesets in "good" condition for H733's. A "good" used set of those seem to go for $6,000 or so.
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But does it make the tube physically last any longer or just make it look better. It presumably doesn't make much difference to wear. Does it reduce UV impact? (UV less of an issue in UK).


I suspect tubes are cheaper in EU.

But I suspect there may actually be a tolerance of scruffier tubes in UK than in the US. So we may ignore scruffy but functional but once its leaky paint don't help..
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But does it make the tube physically last any longer or just make it look better. It presumably doesn't make much difference to wear. Does it reduce UV impact? (UV less of an issue in UK).
Yes, prevents any more UV wear and seals pinhole leaks.

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I suspect tubes are cheaper in EU.
Yes, competitiion is a good thing. Though, people have listed 4 or 5 places in the US that make tubes but they all seems to be the same price.

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But I suspect there may actually be a tolerance of scruffier tubes in UK than in the US. So we may ignore scruffy but functional but once its leaky paint don't help..
Maybe, maybe not. It seems like you guys just retube more often. I also could be more old hulls around to work from since ribs have been more popular for longer.
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Lots of older boats in uk. different commercial to leisure ratio so tubes probably lighter centre weight in many cases so need replacing. Less sun. Tube prices about half to a third of the USA. Nobody likes painted tubes.
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