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Old 16 August 2013, 01:25   #1
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the rib vs the whaler

20`Boston whaler with deep vee vs 20` rib deep vee
What advantages does the rib have over the whaler.

The rib is stable at rest as is the whaler.
The rib is good in chop and 3-4ft seas, the whaler the same.
The whaler will have better deck space and storage.
The weight would prob be same if comparing high quality sea rib.
The maintenance would be less on the whaler, no tubes pressures to deal with.
They both have great buoyancy, I wont mention unsinkable..
both may not sink to bottom but both could capsize.

any thoughts?
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Old 16 August 2013, 02:33   #2
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Yeah, a whaler is also a RHIB if you put a tube around it.
The difference is that a boat with a rubber ring round it is harder to capsize or sink.
Also the IB design tends to protect the RH against direct impact when coming alongside things. The extra maintenance issue is down to the type of rubber ring fitted. Some require more than others.
All in all, it depends what you need the boat for.
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A good friend of mine has the next size up Whaler and I must say as Hard Boats go its pretty Good, nice fit and finish,well thought out, and on a nice day out from Dartmouth with the Picknick Table set up and the Bimini deployed,and I-pod going it is a pleasant vessel to be on
However....(oh and the RIB can do the Picknick thing ALMOST as well if you gear up for it--See Pikey Daves's 'Dive Boat')
Put a RIB of the same size against it in the Rougher Stuff (and it doesn't have to be that rough!) and the 'Whaler' starts wishing it was at Home with Bob Marley having a Smoke!
In a force 4-5 Beam Sea from, Dartmouth to Plymouth It proved to be a VERY wet and Bumpy Ride,with my old RIB Taking it in its Stride! and us having to slow down all the time so they could catch up!...
As for throwing them around, pushing the limit,and or wave jumping like you can A RIB..forget it....Tried that!.. and those seats!!
In short IMO if you want to go out in Fair weather,and not do long or extended Cruiseing, (where the weather often chages for the worse) and you don't want to carry too much or too many,it is a decent hard Boat.
There are many reasons The RNLI-Special Forces-Rapid Response-Off-shore Oil Rigs-Customs ect ect choose as their First choice a RIB!
Oh and my Mate wants a Ribcraft Factory tour sometime soon
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We have a 16ft Whaler type thing, heaps of deckspace compared to a similar length/beam RIB but not so great in the rough stuff.
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A good friend of mine has the next size up Whaler and I must say as Hard Boats go its pretty Good, nice fit and finish,well thought out, and on a nice day out from Dartmouth with the Picknick Table set up and the Bimini deployed,and I-pod going it is a pleasant vessel to be on
However....(oh and the RIB can do the Picknick thing ALMOST as well if you gear up for it--See Pikey Daves's 'Dive Boat')
Put a RIB of the same size against it in the Rougher Stuff (and it doesn't have to be that rough!) and the 'Whaler' starts wishing it was at Home with Bob Marley having a Smoke!
In a force 4-5 Beam Sea from, Dartmouth to Plymouth It proved to be a VERY wet and Bumpy Ride,with my old RIB Taking it in its Stride! and us having to slow down all the time so they could catch up!...
As for throwing them around, pushing the limit,and or wave jumping like you can A RIB..forget it....Tried that!.. and those seats!!
In short IMO if you want to go out in Fair weather,and not do long or extended Cruiseing, (where the weather often chages for the worse) and you don't want to carry too much or too many,it is a decent hard Boat.
There are many reasons The RNLI-Special Forces-Rapid Response-Off-shore Oil Rigs-Customs ect ect choose as their First choice a RIB!
Oh and my Mate wants a Ribcraft Factory tour sometime soon
Its all in the hands of the helmsman. Check out www.oceansquest.com and you may look at your statement slightly different. 8000 miles from Florida to Germany in a 21ft Flats boat takes some beating! Alan P
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20`Boston whaler with deep vee vs 20` rib deep vee
What advantages does the rib have over the whaler.

The rib is stable at rest as is the whaler.
The rib is good in chop and 3-4ft seas, the whaler the same.
The whaler will have better deck space and storage.
The weight would prob be same if comparing high quality sea rib.
The maintenance would be less on the whaler, no tubes pressures to deal with.
They both have great buoyancy, I wont mention unsinkable..
both may not sink to bottom but both could capsize.

any thoughts?
I'm not sure this is a "useful" question, in so much as there are very many kinds of RIB hull and only one Boston Whaler (yeah, I know there are lots of Boston Whaler designs - but you have one in mind)

I've googled as many Boston Whaler hulls as is good for one man in a day, and I have to say, they don't look like they are the same stuff as a good seagoing RIB hull - even the modern B-Ws look to have relatively low deadrise and lots of horizontal chines.

My guess is that a "good" RIB will vastly outperform the Whaler in the rough.

The Whaler will be a better fishing/party platform, the RIB better at transporting people in rougher conditions at higher speeds.
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Its all in the hands of the helmsman. Check out www.oceansquest.com and you may look at your statement slightly different. 8000 miles from Florida to Germany in a 21ft Flats boat takes some beating! Alan P
Only in America!!...Still be Better off in a RIB though!... Mr Bombard still wins out
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Its all in the hands of the helmsman. Check out www.oceansquest.com and you may look at your statement slightly different. 8000 miles from Florida to Germany in a 21ft Flats boat takes some beating! Alan P
Having had hard boats jet skis and ribs and 2 back ops,and know that u have far more experience than me son, u of all people should know that for covering ground fast and safe the RIB is the platform
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It looks like this company is owned by Whaler? They have both Whalers and RIBs for government use.

You can read their own descriptions.

Check out the video on the IMPACT 750 rib.

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TFPU. Great thread.

That Impact 750 looks a lot like the Zodiac 733 Hurricane.

I am still researching my next boat, but it will probably be a 23-24 foot with one or two outboards.

It will definitely be a center consoled style boat, but still cant decide if it will be a RIB, or something without tubes.
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