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Old 13 March 2008, 17:04   #1
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Solution found

The semi-removable section of my deck is secured with 40+ #10 stainless
self tapping c'sk screws. The holes have minor hairline cracks around them and look really bad. Went searching for some finish washers in SS to cover up the cracks etc. and spread the load on the fiberglass.
Found this page:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/ha/washers.html

Scrol down. I chose the flat ones. Price is Ok and service is excellent. 50 washers for $7.40 inc. shipping. They have lot's of other good stuff.
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Excellent - very useful for my next project!!!
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Old 13 March 2008, 22:43   #3
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I like the CSK finishing washers, I've only been able to find them in brass until now!
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Old 13 March 2008, 22:53   #4
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Try here on ebay , they seem to have the lot .

i think nylon washers under stainless washers would be the way to go
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I like the CSK finishing washers, I've only been able to find them in brass until now!
I was thinking of you when I posted as you have the same problem as me but much bigger. I have never seen them before, but they are much lower profile than the beveled ones.
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Not trying to tell you how because i haven't seen the problem ,
but surely anything countersunk will make the cracks worse as it pulls into the hole
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Not trying to tell you how because i haven't seen the problem ,
but surely anything countersunk will make the cracks worse as it pulls into the hole
Yes, exactly. The cracks are caused by the radial stress caused when the screw is tightened. The plan is to open out the C'sink slightly, add blob of silicone, and washer, so all the stress is axial.
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Yes, exactly. The cracks are caused by the radial stress caused when the screw is tightened. The plan is to open out the C'sink slightly, add blob of silicone, and washer, so all the stress is axial.
Hey Limey, when you set the screws use 3 M 5200. It's gooey and messy to work with but that stuff will grip and hold the screws in MUCH better than conventional silicone. What's more you'll still be able to take them out with a screw gun or screwdriver, that stuff (5200) makes em a hell of a lot more vibration proof. Believe it.
Great Info for all the ribbers on Aircraft Spruce, I used to buy aircraft fittings for fuel and oil lines from them back in the day when I was restoring Nortons and Triumphs and had forgotten completely about them, thanks for that update, I'll be using them for a few things I have planned.

Just so all you ribbers know, not many two wheeled vehicles are prettier than a nice Bonneville or Commando, just my opinion, I have owned a few...
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Hey Limey, when you set the screws use 3 M 5200. It's gooey and messy to work with but that stuff will grip and hold the screws in MUCH better than conventional silicone. What's more you'll still be able to take them out with a screw gun or screwdriver, that stuff (5200) makes em a hell of a lot more vibration proof. Believe it.
Great Info for all the ribbers on Aircraft Spruce, I used to buy aircraft fittings for fuel and oil lines from them back in the day when I was restoring Nortons and Triumphs and had forgotten completely about them, thanks for that update, I'll be using them for a few things I have planned.
Hi Pat,
Will do on the 5200, thanks for the tip. It seems we have too much in common: that may be worrying! My last Triumph restoration was a 1961 TR6.
Sold it 10+ years ago and wish I had not.
BTW, I have only been to Cleveland once to attend a seminar at Lincoln. I used to work for David Lincoln.
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Will do on the 5200, thanks for the tip. It seems we have too much in common: that may be worrying! My last Triumph restoration was a 1961 TR6.
Sold it 10+ years ago and wish I had not.
BTW, I have only been to Cleveland once to attend a seminar at Lincoln. I used to work for David Lincoln.
Lincoln Electric... lifetime job for most people.
You aren't missing anything by only being to Cleveland once... except the Lake, it is great, really great boating...
I never had the expertise with the pre-units, it takes a bit more talent to restore one of those, they bring a pretty big buck and aren't they handsome?
I miss my classic bikes but I still have a Triumph in my garage, 99 Daytona.
Triumph... What a great name for a motorcycle company! I will ALWAYS have a soft spot in my heart for a nice looking British classic bike. I was never a fan of the American brand, they have just never done anything for me.
I digress, anyhow the 5200 will work very well (use it liberally in the hole) and for the life of me, I don't know how I forgot about Aircraft Spruce, I pop a deck rivet loose once in a while and I know they have the perfect solution compared to the automotive rivets I used on my deck, thanks for that.
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Washers just arrived. Excellent quality, no burrs, and shiny. Also they are very slightly dished so will seat down well. Just perfect for spreading tension onto f/glass. Gonna buy some more to have around.
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Washers just arrived. Excellent quality, no burrs, and shiny. Also they are very slightly dished so will seat down well. Just perfect for spreading tension onto f/glass. Gonna buy some more to have around.
If you could, put up some pics of the finished job, I'd like to see how it looks, I might have use for them myself.
Shortly I'll be resuming work on my own boat, chomping at the bit!
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If you could, put up some pics of the finished job, I'd like to see how it looks, I might have use for them myself.
Shortly I'll be resuming work on my own boat, chomping at the bit!
Hi Pat
Will do, give me a few days.
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