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Old 07 February 2009, 09:05   #11
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I'm glad to see that when we collonised the US we exported our xenophobia too! Personally if I was in your shoes and looking for the toughest rib possible I would have been more confident if they were made in Yeovil, UK and exported. That said, the guys at Ribcraft are clearly not stupid and if licensing the designs and the name I am sure they have contractual protections in place to ensure that the quality meets the standards Ribcraft (UK) would expect.
One would think so. But I can tell you for a fact that when Guiness contracted Labatts to brew 'Guiness' for them locally, the product was a disgusting , undrinkable , unmitigated disaster . Good thing the real imported stuff is also available here.
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One would think so. But I can tell you for a fact that when Guiness contracted Labatts to brew 'Guiness' for them locally, the product was a disgusting , undrinkable , unmitigated disaster . Good thing the real imported stuff is also available here.
There was some subtelty in my wording though - contractual protections are not the same thing as direct control... ...they mean there are remedys for crap performance, and possibly some obligations which enable the licensor to enforece preventive actions too...
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Further to that point, I believe that Labatts is no longer brewing it's version of Guinness. So it seems that quality control did prevail in the end.
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Further to that point, I believe that Labatts is no longer brewing it's version of Guinness. So it seems that quality control did prevail in the end.
Yes the buyers voted with their feet ( and other parts)
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Old 07 February 2009, 23:09   #15
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It would be interesting to hear more specific info from him about the differences between the Titans & Hurricanes, be it handling characteristics, build quality, ergonomics etc...
It was a brief "over the transom" conversation, but I recall that he felt the ride was less stable. It could be the Titan is just lighter and thus a little more "flighty". I think I remember reading HP ratings for similar sized boats and there was some difference.

From what I have seen of the Titans, they look well-built, but perhaps not as nicely "detailed"... a little bit home-made looking in places.
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Which would tend to suggest that the boat was built for Jamestown, RI not Marblehead, MA!

There's a series of articles on www.jamestownpress.com about the problems with this boat, and the cause seems to remain unclear. Looks like the town and Ribcraft split the repair bill 50/50 in the end.
Some interesting reading there. And being Jamestown, RI, that explains why I never heard of such an issue with the Marblehead Harbormaster!

That reminds me, I need to replace the zincs on my SmartTabs! There's not much left of them. Stray voltage sucks...
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One would think so. But I can tell you for a fact that when Guiness contracted Labatts to brew 'Guiness' for them locally, the product was a disgusting , undrinkable
Much like when the UK's Guinness was brewed in Park Lane. It's gorgeous now it's imported from Ireland.
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Thanks for your post Pelican – you ask a great question. Seeing there's some confusion surrounding the boat we built for Jamestown we thought we'd give you the full rundown. But before we do, to answer your initial question, any RIBCRAFT RIB sold in North or South America is completely built in the United States. We specialize in building our RIBs for professional users and offer the same commercial grade RIBs we build for military and law enforcement agencies to recreational boaters.

As far as the Jamestown Harbormaster incident – we built a 21' aluminum RIBCRAFT 6.5 (RIBCRAFT 6.5AL) for the Jamestown Harbormaster located in Jamestown, Rhode Island. After just a few weeks in the water, the bottom paint appeared to have areas where it was blown off, the hull had pitting, the zincs were completely chewed and destroyed, and three different types of gluing systems found on various OEM parts on the boat, including O rings on the Bomar hatches, had all failed.

The town claimed the failure of the bottom paint was due to improper surface preparation but they could not explain the rest of damage to the hull that was above and below the waterline, the glue systems failures and the overall general degradation of the boat.

An independent surveyor who works primarily for the US Navy found that the water was charged with stray electrical current. The surveyor was so concerned after taking initial readings from the harbor that he called the police department to advise of a public safety hazard for swimmers in the water. The technical data, supported by accepted corrosion theory, indicated that the boat’s damage was caused by stray electrical current in the water causing widespread cathodic disbondment of the various paint and adhesive systems onboard the boat. The stray current was later determined to have come from a local marina. This was the only alloy boat in the immediate area so it took the brunt.

The town quickly settled the matter after two local residents with first handle knowledge of the cause came forth and offered to provide testimony to support the surveyor’s findings.

We're happy to say that the story has a happy ending. The boat was repaired and was in service all last season without any problems and the electrical problem at the marina was quickly and quietly corrected. The town continues to use RIBCRAFT to service the boat, its engines, and to store the boat in the off-season.

Please let me know if you any quesitons about this - I'd be more than happy to answer them. Plus, if any of you are in the Marblehead area you're more than welcome to come by and take a look at the boat this winter.

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Matt;

Thanks for taking the time to post the rest of the story.

Good to hear it was resolved in a manner that benefitted both parties (and, I suppose the rest of the boaters there.)

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Old 01 March 2009, 02:12   #20
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spooky

That was spooky till Matt chimed in. I've got the same boat, all made in the US, and have had zero problems in three (4?) yrs. I'm not in the water a whole lot, though, either. My alum hull is doing fine, and the tubes sit outside all year; covered from UV, but not from the big minus temps. Glad all that worked out for the better, but I am curious how "stray juice" just zaps around in the water like that. Interesting.
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