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Old 21 September 2016, 13:23   #11
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Very easy as we ship our big ribs on a 40' flat open container. Not so long ago we shipped a 10 mtr open rib to the Bahamas so to the US it is a doddle . We ship from Gdynia Poland just do some research on freight charges at your end. Be brave and get yourself a European made rib you cannot go wrong.
In Europe we know to make RIBS both open and cabin ones.
The best European ribs are made in the Poland, UK and Holland. Some here may not agree to that order but that is my view.
Thanks for the input! Yes freight is one thing I will have to look into and consider when the time comes. I'll continue looking at different Euro models as well.
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Old 21 September 2016, 13:28   #12
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How realistic is buying a european manufactured boat and shipping it to the states? Would shipping costs completely kill it? Mfgs like Technohull, Goldfish, and Scorpion to name a few have some really nice looking boats.
Three items:
1.) Warranty support? With no dealers or service centers, you take a huge risk. If the manufacturer abandoned you with a defective boat, it would be very hard to take legal action.

2.) Shipping? With Hanjin going bankrupt, container prices have spiked. You will also have to deal with duty and customs, plus the boat would likely still need to be prepared for use and outfitted with a trailer.

3.) Engine? Often, engine manufacturers will not allow their engines to be exported. If the boat was shipped rigged, the outboards may not have a valid warranty. It would have to be rigged domestically.
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Three items:
1.) Warranty support? With no dealers or service centers, you take a huge risk. If the manufacturer abandoned you with a defective boat, it would be very hard to take legal action.

2.) Shipping? With Hanjin going bankrupt, container prices have spiked. You will also have to deal with duty and customs, plus the boat would likely still need to be prepared for use and outfitted with a trailer.

3.) Engine? Often, engine manufacturers will not allow their engines to be exported. If the boat was shipped rigged, the outboards may not have a valid warranty. It would have to be rigged domestically.
1 , 2 and 3 RUBBISH
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Old 21 September 2016, 13:57   #14
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1 , 2 and 3 RUBBISH
#1 on happens on a regular basis with chinese brands in the USA. 5 year warranty like the big dogs. Whole boat disintegrates in 3 years in the hot Florida sun, then when the customer goes to file a claim, the brand is gone...either ignoring the customer, or operating under a different brand name. JP Marine comes to mind.

A lot of service stations refuse to deal with brands they don't carry because of reimbursement problems. Either that, or they brands only offer to reimburse at some horrible rate, like $40/hr. I've experienced both firsthand.

#2 I heard offhand from a friend who does import/export. There's a lot of product frozen right now, because ports won't accept Hanjin, so they're anchored and unable to offload.

Half of Hanjin's vessels frozen out of ports, Business News & Top Stories - The Straits Times

#3 is discussed on "thehulltruth.com" frequently. I'm sure you could contact Yamaha/Mercury/Honda/Suzuki to get the official stance from the company. They might all have different specific policies. I know Yamaha disallows it:

"A. It is not recommended that you import or export a new Yamaha product. Yamaha products meet strict compliance regulations for the country in which it was originally intended. In addition, the Yamaha factory warranty is not transferable between countries."
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Well thanks for input from both of you, helps educate me.
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office888 I now see I have your attention

firstly I am not talking of any Chinese ribs and from your post I see you know nothing about us to let me enlighten you.

we have been making ribs in Poland since 2000 and since 1986 we have been the Mercury distributor in Poland. Most of our ribs are fitted out with Mercury and we have direct access to Mercury US

we can pre-rig for Mercury or fit out with Mercury or supply less engines. if we supplied with the engines we would advise Mercury US of such but we believe that pre-rigging is best for the client.

the only other engines which we install are Yamaha and we advise Yamaha at the time of the enquiry where the engines are going. This is important for the warranty.

This clears the matter of the engines

as for the warranty of the boat then we do not supply defective products nor do we expect our product to be defective, I guess you have had some bad experience with some imports from China and think that all imports are the same .

as for shipping then I can see you must be again referring to shipments possibly from China.

We have shipped ribs to the Caribbean Middle East and our other range ie hard boats as far as Japan and Australia and even to New Caledonia and the Buyers have never had any worries

You have not had any dealings with us so please do not use your bad experiences as standard practice for all European exporters.

If it had not been for the "Jones act" still in force I guess we would have supplied loads of ribs to the commercial sector and especially for the whale watching operators.
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office888 I now see I have your attention

firstly I am not talking of any Chinese ribs and from your post I see you know nothing about us to let me enlighten you.

we have been making ribs in Poland since 2000 and since 1986 we have been the Mercury distributor in Poland. Most of our ribs are fitted out with Mercury and we have direct access to Mercury US

we can pre-rig for Mercury or fit out with Mercury or supply less engines. if we supplied with the engines we would advise Mercury US of such but we believe that pre-rigging is best for the client.

the only other engines which we install are Yamaha and we advise Yamaha at the time of the enquiry where the engines are going. This is important for the warranty.

This clears the matter of the engines

as for the warranty of the boat then we do not supply defective products nor do we expect our product to be defective, I guess you have had some bad experience with some imports from China and think that all imports are the same .

as for shipping then I can see you must be again referring to shipments possibly from China.

We have shipped ribs to the Caribbean Middle East and our other range ie hard boats as far as Japan and Australia and even to New Caledonia and the Buyers have never had any worries

You have not had any dealings with us so please do not use your bad experiences as standard practice for all European exporters.

If it had not been for the "Jones act" still in force I guess we would have supplied loads of ribs to the commercial sector and especially for the whale watching operators.
I don't think I've ever seen a "perfect" boat brand. Everyone makes mistakes, which is the point of a warranty... it's worse so with boats, since they're hand constructed products. One missed spot, and boom, you've got a bubble in the GRP. It's amplified even more with tubes, since they're so fragile. All it takes is a little freight damage, and you're in a world of hurt. Or my personal favorite, supplier screwups! A bad material batch from Pennel & Flipo which turns in to a pimple-covered mess of delamination after a few years (this always seemed to affect Caribe the worst, but no brand was immune).

I've realized, at the end of the day, it's all about how the company stands behind the product.

Internationally, with no dealer support... It's a huge risk. Can it go well? Maybe, maybe not.

Maybe I'm just a negative nancy.

The Hanjin mess is going to affect everyone, they were the 7th largest steamship line in the world. They didn't just handle Asia.
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I don't think I've ever seen a "perfect" boat brand. Everyone makes mistakes, which is the point of a warranty... it's worse so with boats, since they're hand constructed products. One missed spot, and boom, you've got a bubble in the GRP. It's amplified even more with tubes, since they're so fragile. All it takes is a little freight damage, and you're in a world of hurt. Or my personal favorite, supplier screws! A bad material batch from Pennel & Flipo which turns in to a pimple-covered mess of delamination after a few years (this always seemed to affect Caribe the worst, but no brand was immune).

I've realized, at the end of the day, it's all about how the company stands behind the product.

Internationally, with no dealer support... It's a huge risk. Can it go well? Maybe, maybe not.

Maybe I'm just a negative nancy.
well I can agree with you on two counts
nor have I seen a "perfect" boat and yes you are a negative nancy

If all my clients took your view I would not sell a single rib and we have operators who come back when they have another requirement .

I think I have exhausted this subject and really have no more to add. Many thanks as I have really enjoyed this chat with you

as a matter of interest there is one 9 mtr Parker diesel in New York. The owner did not buy it from me but from a chap in Florida. He contacted me after the purchase and we have exchanged emails over the years . I have even supplied him with some Leafield inflation valves . He has 4 hard boats as well and he tells me his kids prefer the rib.
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