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Old 21 January 2006, 17:30   #1
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Looking to buy a Bombard DB 600 or Zodiac Pro 15 man

I've noticed that the Bombard is about 400 pounds lighter than the Zodiac 15 man yet they are almost the same size. Both are around 20 feet. What is the reason for this weight difference? The Bombard 600 can take up to 120hp engine weighing 416 pounds and the Zodiac can take a 150hp. The Zodiac is also about 5000 dollars more. Can the Zodiac take more of a beating than the Bombard or is the Bombard just a much simpler boat. Does anyone have any experience with the Bombard DB 600?

any advice would be great.

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Old 21 January 2006, 17:55   #2
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hello, i personnally think that zodiacs are better than bombards, although i think they are owned by the same company, and have very similar features, the zodiacs are nicely built, and i assume the main reason for a weight difference is the heavier/sturdier build of the zodiac over the bombard. its the pro 16 man you are talking about? which is 6m long! i had a pro 3 9 man, nice boat, but whichever you go for, make sure you get the balance of the boat right, so place console further forward, and dont go for too heavy a motor, even if the hp is in the range, as i found with the 9 man that it had a tendancy to porpoise quite a bit before settling onto the plane! good boats though, but i would say definately leisure orientated, mediteranean style of hull. if you have anything else to ask shoot, ill try give my limited advice, jonathan
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Old 21 January 2006, 18:31   #3
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If my memory serves me right the Zodiacs use Hypalon tubes which tend to last longer/easier to repair.

Why are you looking at these in particular? I know RIBs are pretty rare in the US but there are others to choose from.

Have a look at Ribcraft

http://www.ribcraftusa.com/ribadvantage.htm

http://www.ribcraft.co.uk/index.html

They are originally a British company and have a pretty good name!!!


There are a few people on here with them - including some from your side of the pond!!!

Ribcraft 5.85- Complete!
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Old 21 January 2006, 18:56   #4
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im not sure, i think my tubes on the pro 9 man zodiac were pvc, not hypalon, i think bombard are the same, and the other company owned by the same, avon, uses the hypalon.........i would agree with codprawn though that other ribs may be better suited! the ones he suggested are good ones, although i appreciate the choice of ribs in the US may not be the same as over here! its a shame you dont have a humber outlet over there
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Old 21 January 2006, 18:57   #5
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I was looking at Ribcraft when I first started thinking about a new boat but they seem to be more expensive than Zodiac and Bombard in this size category. We really only have 20000 dollars to work with. We also want a very simple boat. A standing console and thats it. I was looking at that Ribcraft 5.85 for sale with a Yamaha 115 for about 27000. A great boat but too expensive for us. Last summer we took our current boat from Chicago to the Gulf of Mexico by river and throughly enjoyed it. Next summer we want to go from Chicago to New York through the Great Lakes. Hence we need something around 20ft with a medium sized 4 stroke. The Bombard DB 600 open is aroung 10000 leaving us 6 or seven thousnd for engine.
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Old 21 January 2006, 19:02   #6
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Responding to Xpertski:

It is a shame there isn't a Humber outlet over here!!! I sent some emails over to Humber asking about getting an Assault here in the States and they didn't even respond! You have no idea how hard it is to get information on RIB's here in Chicago. People think you are talking about food. I went to the Chicago Boat Show last weekend held in the biggest conference center in the country and you know how many RIB's they had. NONE
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Old 21 January 2006, 19:06   #7
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if its a direct choice between the bombard and the zodiac, it owuld be my choice to go for the zodiac, i prefer the looks, the heavier build, i think its much better than the bombard (although they are extremely similar) i guess the best thing would be to trial both boats if possible because the difference in performance may not warrant an extra 5000 dollars. either way you wont be dissappointed in the rib! as i said before, make sure you get the balance right with both boats as they havent got the best hulls around, so may be stuborn on speedily getting onto the plain, but should be ifne with the correct weight distribution!
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Old 21 January 2006, 19:09   #8
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thats not good at all, i guess they dont know what they are missing with ribs!!! i would try contact humber again, maybe by phone, because their boats are excellent, and cheaper than allot of other alternatives, and yet often have far superior qualities, seek a destroyer if you can, may fit the bill nicely, and then maybe the costs of shipping may not make so much of a difference in price between the humber from over here and buying the zodiac from the US
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Old 21 January 2006, 22:47   #9
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thats not good at all, i guess they dont know what they are missing with ribs!!! i would try contact humber again, maybe by phone, because their boats are excellent, and cheaper than allot of other alternatives, and yet often have far superior qualities, seek a destroyer if you can, may fit the bill nicely, and then maybe the costs of shipping may not make so much of a difference in price between the humber from over here and buying the zodiac from the US
Problem is the $ is pretty weak against the these days!!!

Having said that worth a try - shipping costs are pretty reasonable for containers because of the sheer volume of traffic.
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Old 21 January 2006, 22:53   #10
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Got any idea how much those shipping costs might be?
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