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Old 14 June 2008, 13:18   #1
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HMS Ontario found

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7454578.stm

Amazing story - the ship has been found in 500' of water almost totally intact - even some windows are still in place!!!

It is "somewhere" in Lake Ontario but they won't say where thank goodness. There are no plans to raise it as it's a grave site.
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that's awesome. i bet that Cameron fellow who made the Titanic movie is already packing up his camera.
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Very interesting - thanks Codders. I was also surprised to read that there are about 4,700 shipwrecks in the great lakes!
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Very interesting - thanks Codders. I was also surprised to read that there are about 4,700 shipwrecks in the great lakes!
So what exactly did you think I do over here for 8 months of the year? I only have about 4,600 to go!

James Cameron actually grew up not far from where the Ontario was found. At this end of Lake Ontario (the west end) the Hamilton and Scourge are sunk. These aren't nearly as deep and are diveable, on mixed gas, and with a special permit from the government... or under the cover of darkness in a radar-evading boat!

http://www.hamilton-scourge.hamilton.ca/

This is the site of the guys who found the Ontario...

http://www.shipwreckworld.com/
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Titanic compared to Modern cruise ship.
What a difference a century makes...
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What a difference a century makes...
Yer!

One Sophisticated, classy and sleek but older, the other Brash, trashy and bloated, but younger.... begs the question:

Which would you prefer to go down on?

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Yer!

One Sophisticated, classy and sleek but older, the other Brash, trashy and bloated, but younger.... begs the question:

Which would you prefer to go down on?

I don't know what you mean?
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You might find this interesting, they didn't realise why they were losing so many boats in the Great Lakes until someone worked out that boats are heavier in fresh water, load a boat in sea water to the gunnels and when it enters fresh water, down she goes.
The plimsole line on the boats that we see now was invented to help combat this by the same guy who made the shoes of the same name


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Which would you prefer to go down on?
Depends whether you want to have a conversation

on the way down or not?
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Yeah, that is interesting. Obvious when you think about it, but easily missed.
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What a difference a century makes...
Recently saw one of the new mega cruise ships docking in Long Beach, just behind the Queen Mary. No idea which one as it was Dark'O'Clock but she was about 3 times the size of the QM but with less than 1% of her character.

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...until someone worked out that boats are heavier in fresh water, load a boat in sea water to the gunnels and when it enters fresh water, down she goes.
To be accurate, "less buoyant" rather than "heavier".

Sea water weighs more than an equal amount of fresh water (due to the dissolved salts), so a given weight ship will displace less sea water than fresh, thus riding higher in salt water.

Shows up in small boats as well, as a slight reduction in top speed when going from salt to fresh water.

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Hmm didn't know about the slight speed reduction in fresh water, figures tho. that means I might be able to get 42 knots!!
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To be accurate, "less buoyant" rather than "heavier".



Sea water weighs more than an equal amount of fresh water (due to the dissolved salts), so a given weight ship will displace less sea water than fresh, thus riding higher in salt water.



Shows up in small boats as well, as a slight reduction in top speed when going from salt to fresh water.



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'er Biff - you knew that from your Diving days: freshwater=less lead.

Cheer up mate - at least if you drown in freshwater now, you'll know it isn't because you're heavier, but rather less bouyant
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Yeah you're right, we used to have to calculate the buoyancy to lift things from the sea bed but still had to work out how much it weighed to crane it on board, so to me it didn't really matter if it was heavy or less buoyant.


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