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Old 02 August 2013, 12:02   #31
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Biggest problem with getting smaller hp motor is that occasionally you might to be thinking I could have got bigger one.

I bolted my motor down at bottom for peace of mind. Also thinking that just in case some opportunist might have smaller chance walking away with my shiny new outboard. With just top clamps all you need to do is ease them up and walk away. With bolts you need couple wrenches and few minutes. Minor deterrent. Regardless if I move motor up couple inches as I suspect I need, It will have to be bolted down with all 4 bolts since clamps won't do any good.

F470, I'm out all next week otherwise I'll gladly give you a demo with 25 horse Zuk. Only difference with 25-30 outboards is at WOT (30 has about 5-10% higher WOT RMPs). Mid range behavior is identical. Same goes for 40-50-60 (with same block). Higher hp motors can burn more fuel at top RPMs, use more energy, hence higher HP. Mid range power should be exactly the same.

Electrical start doesn't add that much weight aside of battery. Certainly adds convenience. It's nice to just push the button. Also my wife, or even kido can start it easily and run the boat. Theoretically if you get hurt (break and arm or twist your ankle), you can still easily start engine and ride home. Option of using electrical trolling motor sometimes could be handy. Alternator output can be added to manual start but kinda defies the purpose then I think.
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Old 02 August 2013, 12:11   #32
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Yup. FC470 should handle that engine. Remember that the engine block for the ETEC 40-50-60 are the same, so weight will be very similar. In that case, if $ is not the issue, why not go for the 60hp?
Not going to unbolt and remove ~240 lbs without an engine hoist. If you don't have a garage rafter you can use with a block and tackle, Harbor Freight has budget engine hoists, wait until they go on sale or use one of their frequent -20% coupons.

At least with my old SIB I wanted to remove the engine so I could take the floor boards out as least once a year to clean out sand and grit that was abrading the fabric.
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Old 02 August 2013, 12:19   #33
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Hell, even my 170lb is two man operation.
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Old 02 August 2013, 12:26   #34
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Hell, even my 170lb is two man operation.
Except for thieves, they seem to carry away with more than you'd think. If the engine is bolted on, a locking nut is a good idea. If clamped on, you should definitely use one of the clamp locks. My 60hp is ~230lbs and I still have a locking bolt. Not 100% piece of mind, but more.
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Sitting on trailer it's just about right height for thieves to snatch it onto shoulder and walk. getting it off the ground up is different story. Not the most convenient object to hold on to.
Capnt what's that security/locking bolt?
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Mine is older and I suspect a different brand, but one of these goes on an ouboard bolt and in theory prevents unbolting the outboard.

WEST MARINE High Security Bolt Lock at West Marine

UK thieves seem to just chain saw the transom, but I haven't heard of such a thing over here. I suspect our theives are more oppotunists and less of an organized gang.
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Awesome, thanks! Been thinking something like that should exist.
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If you get electric start etc and need a battery, you should find a way of securing the battery to the floor so it isn't bouncing around.
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Box came with some clamps I screwed down to the floor. Talked to someone at IBC (inflatable boat center) they were pretty certain that I need to raise my engine so anti-cavitation plate is 1/2-1" below transom.
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Not sure what size battery/box you got. But a U1 size, depsite being a fair bit smaller than what Yam recommended for my F25 - started it up fine, even in winter. I recommend spending the extra to get a Gel or AGM battery. When (not if) you swamp the boat, these will survive the flood.
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