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Old 02 March 2007, 22:11   #21
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A lot of questions...

So the easy ones first....

As PT points out, the bears are not a huge problem... hang your food, no dirty dishes around... absolutely no food in you tent. I don't recommend a shotgun. Instead, slap a wad of peanut butter on the other guy's ass and run like hell....

Black flies in August won't be a problem... at least not close to the water. We do get stable flies (look like house flies, but bite like deer flies) They can swarm your boat. Mind you, we typically have a wet smelly dog or 3 in the boat which really attracts them. So bath now and again!

Birnie, you are right to be concerned about fuel if you are going the north shore. I will see what I can find out, but my recollection is that heading east from Killarney, the next fuel stop will by Britt, ON in Byng Inlet. My GUESS is that that is about 70 miles... and there is just beautiful country in between. South from there you will have Point au Baril, and then Parry sound... probably 50-60 miles in between... I can't comment on your "mileage" since I don't know much about your boat. I burn about 1.5 litres per mile... 590 with a 150 2 stroke at "fast cruise"...

I am going to send you a PM with an email address for a friend of mine who operates a live-aboard dive/tour operation inTobermory. He has a 74' tug and cruises that area frequently. He is working on a tug in the Seaway this winter I believe, so he might not answer you right away, but he'll know lots about the area.

The one concern I have with your plan is that this water is very exposed and it's BIG water. Early August will be least windy typically, increasing after mid month. 4-6' waves are very usual, which will slow you down considerably, and help is a long way off. 8-10 is not uncommon, but unlikely in early-mid August.
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Old 03 March 2007, 01:24   #22
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Something I've use during the past year or so to deal with bugs is a 'thermacell'. Mind you last summer was af fairly dry one here so the bugs weren't that bad anyway, but the device seems to work pretty much as claimed.
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Thanks for the reply and pm Stoo. We will contact your friend. Im in the process of looking at some charts and guides of the northern channel and the Georgian bay. Im thinking a range of about 150 miles should be adequate. Last summer we took our hurricane to Lake Superior and ran into some 8-10 foot waves around the Apostle Islands. We learned a lot about big open water there.

Prairie Tuber, I just took a look at “thermacell”. Looks good. Thanks for the info.
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Old 03 March 2007, 22:41   #24
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Bryan,

The North Channel will be a piece of cake... It's one of the primo cruising areas in the Lakes. It's sheltered with lots of areas for fuel. It's east of Killarney where things get a little sketchy! You'll have paddles though, right?
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Bryan, With regard to Bears, having a can of pepper spray is a reasonable and inespensive precaution. I've never had to use it, but i bring a can with me when in bear country, since it is inexpensive, handy and effective. You might want to check ahead of time to make sure there are no issues about bringing it back and forth across the border.

Something else that is relatively new are small electric fences. This has become more popular in grizzly country out west, but probably is overkill in black bear country. Here are some links about these fences;

http://www.nols.edu/resources/resear...fence_xl.shtml

http://www.waterstrider.com/bear-rep...tric-fence.htm

http://www.udap.com/

http://www.electrobearguard.com/?gcl...FR8JYAodYG2Exw
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Prarie tuber, that video is pretty convincing, Im thinking about gettin one to protect my beer from my roomates. I think since we will only be in black bear country I will get some pepper spray and keep food far from the tent. I was reading that black bears have been known to swim as much as five miles to get to favorite islands. Impressive
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Yup - significant differences between black bears and grizzly bears. This press release from the National Parks Canada office in Jasper best sums it up:

The Jasper office of National Parks Canada has issued a warning to campers about high levels of bear activity this spring. They advise hikers and campers to wear little bells and carry pepper spray for defense. They also inform one of how to determine the different kinds of bear scat. Black bear scat has many seeds and smells of blackberries. Grizzly bear scat has small bells and smells of pepper.



There was also that incident in Alaska a couple of years back about the 2 hikers (one was from Romania, the other from Czech Republic) that were killed by a pair of mating grizzlies. Wildlife officers ended up shooting both of the bears and found the remains of the Romanian inside the female bear. Guess where the Czech was?
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Prarie tuber, that video is pretty convincing, Im thinking about gettin one to protect my beer from my roomates.
Roommates are like squirrels. An electric fence won't stop them. The only sure way to keep rommates from your beer is to be more pro-active, and drink it now, before they can get to it.

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Old 08 March 2007, 13:33   #29
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Grizzly bear scat has small bells and smells of pepper.
The ones you really need to worry about have scat that smells like gunpowder and has bits of running shoe it it!
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Prarie tuber, that video is pretty convincing, Im thinking about gettin one to protect my beer from my roomates. I think since we will only be in black bear country I will get some pepper spray and keep food far from the tent. I was reading that black bears have been known to swim as much as five miles to get to favorite islands. Impressive
Just remember, these are "Canadian bears" which means they have probably become acclimated to BEER!!! Stoo or Tuber will tell you what you need to do....
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