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Old 27 July 2015, 07:36   #31
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Jason, you posted a picture of that ribcraft showing a tour where no one is wearing a life jacket and there are no comments yet - I'm confused!
Assuming it was taken in the US, no need for LJs. It's a known fact that they use their ingenuity to ensure nothing bad ever happens there
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Old 27 July 2015, 11:05   #32
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Assuming it was taken in the US, no need for LJs. It's a known fact that they use their ingenuity to ensure nothing bad ever happens there

Duh, we passed a rule saying bad things aren't allowed to happen.

It's bigger than my boat so that makes it the largest RIB I've personally seen over here. Yeah, it's only a 9m or so but it does scoot about.
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Old 27 July 2015, 11:26   #33
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Duh, we passed a rule saying bad things aren't allowed to happen.

It's bigger than my boat so that makes it the largest RIB I've personally seen over here. Yeah, it's only a 9m or so but it does scoot about.
the photo is for sure misleading as I took it for at least a 7.5 - 8 mtr rib. I found the web page
Dolphin Quest Tour | Visit Catalina Island

click on DOLPHIN QUEST tab on the hand side

and here you can see a short film with the rib . there are passengers and liferafts behind the helmsman - not the best deck arrangement as I see it.

so a big "pussy cat" but for sure not a beast
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Old 27 July 2015, 11:30   #34
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Assuming it was taken in the US, no need for LJs. It's a known fact that they use their ingenuity to ensure nothing bad ever happens there
US regs state that there must be a LJ on board for each person. No mandate that they be worn (except for children 12 and under, and for certain types of LJ's - many inflatable jackets must be worn, for example.)

Requirement for a business to have their clients wear them or not is up to that business. Actually, that holds true for recreational boaters, as well.


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Old 28 July 2015, 02:55   #35
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US regs state that there must be a LJ on board for each person. No mandate that they be worn (except for children 12 and under, and for certain types of LJ's - many inflatable jackets must be worn, for example.)

Requirement for a business to have their clients wear them or not is up to that business. Actually, that holds true for recreational boaters, as well.


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That's the same in the UK. No requirement to be worn. Actually no requirement to be carried recreationally. But the vast majority of RIB rides would expect/insist customers wear LJ.

In the land where the law suit is king it always surprises me some of the things I've seen in the states that wouldn't be allowed in UK H&S rules... If you go overboard and (?your family) sue why would the helm/operator not be liable? In the UK they might still be, but they can at least show they took some precautions against you drowning...?
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That's the same in the UK. No requirement to be worn. Actually no requirement to be carried recreationally.
Didn't know that. Of course, I don't do much boating on the UK, either. We definitely have to have them on board (of course there's always the idiots who figure it's easier to deal with the slap on the wrist after the fact than to actually follow the law, so...)



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In the land where the law suit is king it always surprises me some of the things I've seen in the states that wouldn't be allowed in UK H&S rules... If you go overboard and (?your family) sue why would the helm/operator not be liable?
Which is why we spend an inordinate amount of time signing waivers and liability releases. Not that it helps in cases of negligence, but it does scare some people off from starting a lawsuit, I guess.

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Compulsory on power boats in Loch Lomond...The National Park Authority (an unelected body) has the power to introduce it's own "by-laws".
I've no argument with the requirement, just the principal.
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Old 28 July 2015, 14:38   #38
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it must be time for our annual lifejacket debate
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