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Old 13 September 2012, 14:48   #21
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So its easier to glue the tube onto the hull upside down, you need to stop sniffing the glue!
That's the only reason I work in inflatable boats, nothing beats a good smell of glue in the morning

On most of the Zodiac boat that has glued tube, like the SRMN, that's the best way to do it.

When you have to remove a glued tube for replacement you need to cut the flaps that are glued to the hull to detached the tube from the hull.

Then, you need to remove the flap, sand and clean the hull in order to remove the glue. The easiest way is to flip the boat. With the boat upside down, you don't have to crawl under the boat to prepare the surface for the new tube. That's the way our guys have been doing this for years.

Like I said, it is easier on most glued tubes. It might not be the case for the Redbay and the Mercury, I can't say how they are glued.
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Old 13 September 2012, 15:00   #22
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Also, in Zodiac's Spain factory the step by step procedure to install the tube on a SRMN show the boat upside down.
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Old 13 September 2012, 15:02   #23
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Also, in Zodiac's Spain factory the step by step procedure to install the tube on a SRMN show the boat upside down.
That's swell, but when it takes >week and $4k to completely disassemble the boat down to a bare hull you just might be better off finding a repair shop capable of doing the work with the boat right side up...
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Old 17 September 2012, 12:23   #24
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Gary,

Watching your videos suggests that you have had work done to this boat by someone other than Mercury? Who is "the Defendant" referred to?

If you expect to get a hearing on this forum, you should start at the beginning and tell your story - i.e. who you bought the boat from, it's age, when the problem started, what Mercury did to address it, etc.

As it is, you are beginning read like a fruitloop with a grudge against Mercury. That boat is in tatters - a brutally awful repair and I have to stretch my imagination to believe that Mercury did the work. Did they?

Let us know what happened.

I do have a grudge against Mercury. This boat has been defective from day one and they have not handled it well at all. How would you feel? The last repair was done by Defender in Connecticut - AT MERCURY's direction. I had to pay to trailer the boat there and back, etc - which was not cheap from Long Island where I live. This was a mercury sanctioned repair, and now the boat is actually in worse shape. Now they expect me to spend thousands more?
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Old 17 September 2012, 12:25   #25
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4000$-5000$ to replace the tube is realistic if the tube is glued in place. On most RIB that have the tube glued, it is easier to install it by flipping the boat. So to do that, you have to remove the outboard/console/etc.... It is a 40-50 hours job, so depending to your work rate it might be expensive.

If the tube is slided in place, 4000$-5000$ is way out. It's a 4-8 hours job on an Hurricane.
Yes, my understanding is that Mercury tubes are glued in place.
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I do have a grudge against Mercury. This boat has been defective from day one and they have not handled it well at all. How would you feel? The last repair was done by Defender in Connecticut - AT MERCURY's direction. I had to pay to trailer the boat there and back, etc - which was not cheap from Long Island where I live. This was a mercury sanctioned repair, and now the boat is actually in worse shape. Now they expect me to spend thousands more?
Have you called Defender?

Is this a PVC, hypalon or polyurethane boat?
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Old 17 September 2012, 13:22   #27
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I do have a grudge against Mercury.
Yes, I get that bit, but you STILL haven't outlined the background and history behind the grudge. It's all just "Mercury are rubbish" which isn't much use to anyone. Your ranting certainly wouldn't put me off doing business with Mercury - you just read like a nut trying to blackmail Mercury into giving you something.
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I do have a grudge against Mercury. This boat has been defective from day one and they have not handled it well at all. How would you feel? The last repair was done by Defender in Connecticut - AT MERCURY's direction. I had to pay to trailer the boat there and back, etc - which was not cheap from Long Island where I live. This was a mercury sanctioned repair, and now the boat is actually in worse shape. Now they expect me to spend thousands more?
Well I have no idea what your consumer protection is like in the US, but on this side of the pond, after stamping my feet at them and putting my complaint in writing (in the UK to the seller not the manufacturer) I would then have returned the boat to the seller, gone to the small claims court, and got my money and expenses back. I can't imagine that in the usa there is not such an option. What I would not have done is made matters possibly worse or more complex by going public. Have you told mercury about this thread?
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Well I have no idea what your consumer protection is like in the US, but on this side of the pond, after stamping my feet at them and putting my complaint in writing (in the UK to the seller not the manufacturer) I would then have returned the boat to the seller, gone to the small claims court, and got my money and expenses back. I can't imagine that in the usa there is not such an option. What I would not have done is made matters possibly worse or more complex by going public. Have you told mercury about this thread?
Yup right here:
http://www.nycourts.gov/courts/towna...ge/index.shtml

(I think the OP is in NY, not sure about the dealer, Defender is in CT)
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This tube looks exactly the same as the DT 750 Valiant sectional tube, can you recognise if it is manufactured in PU or Hypalon?
Is it possible that this is a DT 750 Valiant and rebadged? This tube can not be fitted with the hull upside down
... and if you can find someone who will manufacture and fit you a new one for $5000 US then good luck!!
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