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Old 28 June 2010, 20:40   #1
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Avon 6m SeaRider?

Hello,

I'm new to the sight, but love all the good information. I recently bought the attached with hopes of bringing it back to life, but have a couple key questions before I start cutting holes to install a fuel tank below deck.

First, a little about the boat. It was advertised as a 1994 (era) Avon 6.0 SeaRider. The boat measures about 17' from stem to stern, and 6'2" in the beam at it's widest. It apparently had twin engines, but I plan to install a single engine, when I get to that point.

Below are some questions: Any information would be greatly appreciated.

1. What is the purpose of the opening (about 4" in diameter) in the stern (center line, down towards the bottom of the hull - not the 2 4" holes for deck draining). It appears to be a tube that runs towards the bow, but I have no idea. Is there something that plugs it, or does it serve a useful technical purpose?

2. When I was cleaning out the bilge, which was very dirty, I noticed that the water really didn't drain. I did notice some .25" holes in various places in the hull, and at one point, there was some water draining out. Was the boat made with these holes, or was this something done, for whatever reason, after the fact? Does the boat use water for "ballast"? Can the holes be plugged, and drain plugs installed in the stern? The reason I'm asking, is that I would like to install an aluminum tank below the deck, but I'm not sure what to think about what is going on below deck.

3. Do I have what I think I have? or is this another model? Also, will a 150hp motor be appropriate for this boat?

4. Finally, what is the affect on handling if I shift the center Console towards the center of the boat, as opposed to towards the bow, as I believe it was originally.

Photos are on this website: http://gallery.me.com/milton.leimkuehlers#100148
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Old 29 June 2010, 11:57   #2
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1. What is the purpose of the opening (about 4" in diameter) in the stern
I believe it's a water ballast system. Allows teh hull to fill with water at rest to enhance stability. When underway, the water drains out. From what I read (I'm not a Searider guy), many people seal this off front and back.

Don't know about your other questions, sorry.

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Old 16 August 2010, 20:41   #3
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I believe it's a water ballast system. Allows teh hull to fill with water at rest to enhance stability. When underway, the water drains out. From what I read (I'm not a Searider guy), many people seal this off front and back.

Don't know about your other questions, sorry.

jky
jky...

Thanks for the reply. I got into the deck, and decided that it should come off. then I got sawzall happy, and got rid of that pesky ballast system, as it would inhibit my placement of a below deck fuel tank. Now I'm cookin...
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Old 29 August 2010, 14:07   #4
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thats a lot of work

Hi Avon2010

It can take 150 as you can see it had twin 70s on it before, moving the cc over the center line would give you a ride you might not like.


Please keep us informed on how things go now thats a job! good luck


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Old 31 August 2010, 19:01   #5
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mark,

Thanks. I have thought about that cc movement, quite a bit. I am hoping, however, that the installation of the batteries forward of the cc and a fuel tank below will give me some weight forward, which is why (I assume) they had the cc so far forward in the first place.

I am waffling a bit on the addition of an extension for the bracket. I finally got all of the deck and stringers removed, so now it's time for the real work. I'm also scratching my head over the use of foam versus wood for the stringers, but still leaning towards foam... there's now way that foam stringers could look as bad as the wood ones I pulled out : )...

I'll keep you posted.
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Old 23 October 2010, 22:43   #6
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Infrastructure costing more than the boat

Getting ready for winter.... Boat's inside, and I'm still working the hull. I've decided to go with Douglas Fir stringers after much back and forth on a forum in boatdesign.net. I have mixed emotions, but I'm confident that they will work out fine, and at a minimum, better than the original plywood that it's replacing.
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Old 24 October 2010, 15:59   #7
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Is it true that a job like that can turn you to drink?
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Old 24 October 2010, 21:27   #8
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Not sure... Drinking is what caused me to buy the bought in the first place. Now I have to continue drinking, just to make it seem sane that I continue...
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Old 25 October 2010, 19:58   #9
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These things happen to the best of us... be sure to keep an adequate supply to make it thru the winter.

Where did you pick up the hull? Looks like a great project. Feel free to let me know if you need a couple of cold ones in an emergency. I'm right around the corner and will deliver.
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Old 25 October 2010, 22:36   #10
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Thanks! Good to see someone local, and thanks for the offer. I'm moving pretty slow, but would love to show at some point would love to host. I can supply the cold ones...

I'll keep posting the progress, but in the meantime, let me know when you're in the Milton area
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