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Old 17 February 2011, 12:54   #1
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Anyone know the history on this boat?

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1992.../United-States

someone posted on another thread that it has been for sale for 2-3 years, which i find kind of strange.

looks nice, but seems a little high on the price.
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Old 22 February 2011, 09:11   #2
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http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1992.../United-States

someone posted on another thread that it has been for sale for 2-3 years, which i find kind of strange.

looks nice, but seems a little high on the price.
Except for the Optimax it looks like a great boat.
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ok, so what's wrong with the Optimax?
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ok, so what's wrong with the Optimax?
I am sure that many people here won't have the same opinion and say that these outboards are great, but I have experienced this outboard on a H733 and I hated these outboards.

First: They are loud and smoky.
Second: We've blown 2 brand new 150 Optimax within 2 weeks. Total breakdown, head totally blown up
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loud and smoky? they are four strokes, aren't they?

how could you blow the heads off two brand new motors? definitely should be covered under warranty, right?
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optimax

The Mercury optimax engines are two strokes. You can google mercury optimax any get a lot of info on them including all sorts of issues and probably even find people who like them.
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loud and smoky? they are four strokes, aren't they?

how could you blow the heads off two brand new motors? definitely should be covered under warranty, right?
Yeah they are 2 strokes outboards, very powerful, the torque is quite surprising tough.

Off course the 2 blown ups were replaced on warranty, but I find it quite surprising that 2 brand new had such a major problem. I've never see something like that with a Yamaha.
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got it.

i have no need for a two stroke motor.

i have a Yamaha on my rib.
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got it.

i have no need for a two stroke motor.

i have a Yamaha on my rib.
Sorry guys going to have to jump in here with the standard quote "2 > 4". Both have arguments in either way, however RIBS are very traditional boats, in essence they are the sports cars of the seas. A less powerful (albeit smoother) f/ does not suit a rib whereas a family cruiser it of course does. With the advent of the latest Optimax and Etec technology, the arguments against two strokes have been blown out the water. The inherently greater torque and power of a two stroke which used to be traded against poor fuel economy, greater noise and smoke is now defunct. At idle, the etec is as quiet as any f/ bar the Veradoro, however the Optimax is still fairly loud. They also both consume the same amount of fuel as a typical 4/.

All engines have their faults, in the beginning, etecs ate their injectors, Optis ate their compressors and Yamahas blew up. No engine is fault free but you only find out about the ones that go wrong, not the thousands that are fine for every one that is a dud.
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