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Old 20 June 2012, 00:43   #11
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With no escort req'd? Daylight only?

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Old 20 June 2012, 12:25   #12
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I just called them to see what they'd say. I said "I'm thinking about buying a boat that's 9 ft. wide".

$90 annual permit allows use of the trailer on state highways & interstates. But, if you get off a state highway or interstate, you need to contact the local city/county in charge to see about their restrictions/permits. (right, like that's going to happen every time you pull off for gas, go the mile from the freeway to the ramp, etc.)

Anything under 10 ft. in width never requires a pilot car. They didn't say anything about night restrictions.

a 24 ft. RIB with a beam of 9 ft. would be "over 8'6 but under 12 ft but not over-weight, over-height, or over-length".

The state highways that the permit covers would be on these maps:
Pilot Car Maps
Look at the second set of maps entitled: "Annual Pilot Car Maps (Legal Weight)". She explained that yellow was okay and red you needed a "Single Trip Permit" for. Those were the only colors on my maps (OC/SD) but I noticed that the bay area map had red-dotted, green, and blue too. No idea what those mean!

I think that I'll skip the permit for now. By owning a RIB, we have the luxury of playing dumb with the CHP and deflating tubes. "Sorry officer, I'll just go back and deflate the tubes."
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I think that I'll skip the permit for now. By owning a RIB, we have the luxury of playing dumb with the CHP and deflating tubes. "Sorry officer, I'll just go back and deflate the tubes."
Be careful playing that game, in California, not having an oversize permit in your possession is considered tax evasion and puts a misdemeanor on your driving record.
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Boy, NCP had me all set to play games, and Troy goes and spoils all my fun...

Thanks for the info, guys. Not like I can afford to buy a new boat anyway.

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Yeah, towing a 9'8" wide boat on the 10 fwy near Palm Desert cost me $1,500 in legal fees to keep the misdemeanor off my driver's record....no bueno.
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Yeah, towing a 9'8" wide boat on the 10 fwy near Palm Desert cost me $1,500 in legal fees to keep the misdemeanor off my driver's record....no bueno.
Ok, might be worth the permit. Any other info from that story that would help us? How big of a boat were you towing?

Right now my boat is sitting next to a 24 ft. Glacier Bay cat in a yard up in LA. I sort of figured that my 7m looks so tiny compared to the Cat that no one would ever bother me.

Compare:
-24 ft. Glacier Bay Cat, ~9,000 lbs, 8'6 wide, 13'6 tall....it's a beast on the trailer but totally legal.
-24 ft RIB, ~4,500 lbs, 9'0 wide, center console/no top ~7'6 tall

In talking on the phone to them yesterday, I learned that having a highway permit doesn't allow you off of the freeways. So, the other thought I had was it would be easier to play dumb with the local authorities if I didn't have a state permit.

Troy, have you ever call a local city or county to ask about the their local restrictions and permitting process?

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Be careful playing that game, in California, not having an oversize permit in your possession is considered tax evasion and puts a misdemeanor on your driving record.
On your criminal record, you mean. It shows up on a license check, but it's part of your personal record, not your driving record.

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That's it, personal record.

The CHP officer said that he knew it was oversize because he was following the trailer and he saw that it was a little wider than the dually fenders on my F-550.
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That's it, personal record.

The CHP officer said that he knew it was oversize because he was following the trailer and he saw that it was a little wider than the dually fenders on my F-550.
Good to know. Any problems with local authorities?
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Good to know. Any problems with local authorities?
Not so far...
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