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16 February 2015, 22:01
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Aluminium Cabin respray
Hi can anyone provide some knowledge on the best way to respray an aluminium cabin, i have been informed powder coating is a no go due to pitting from air pockets and wondered if anyone could share any success stories.
jono
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16 February 2015, 22:06
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You can powder coat aluminium but you may struggle to get an oven big enough & the heat may be an issue for accessories depending on what type of boat it is
Alternatively an etch primer then a reasonable 2 pack top coat should be fine
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16 February 2015, 22:08
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Powder coating also needs to be baked. Is the cabin removable or is it permanently attached to the hull?
Jason
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17 February 2015, 01:00
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It's removable but I asked a powder coating company and they said they wouldn't do it as they couldn't guarantee the finish
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17 February 2015, 02:29
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We sand then paint with 2000e from interluxe then paint with awlcraft
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17 February 2015, 05:47
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Recommend HMG paint systems.
Nt 2000e etch base (zinc chromate)
4&1 polykote primer
Acrythane a211 top coat
will out live an use you can through at it if applied correctly
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17 February 2015, 05:50
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17 February 2015, 07:32
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Originally Posted by jonoadams75
It's removable but I asked a powder coating company and they said they wouldn't do it as they couldn't guarantee the finish
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Might be worth a second opinion as powder coat is much more durable than paint & many aluminium items are powder coated
Maybe there was too much prep or the company just didn't fancy the job
Powder coat is electrostatic which helps get the coating into places you won't get with a wet system & often those places are where corrosion will start & creep under the coating
Is the cabin currently painted? Usually needs sand blasting to bare metal & to provide a key for the powder coat
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17 February 2015, 07:53
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I understood powder coating wasn't very marine-proof. I may be wrong, I've cause to go chat to the local powder coaters as the A-frame on my current rib is Ali so I'll report back.
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17 February 2015, 08:02
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Originally Posted by Daniel
I understood powder coating wasn't very marine-proof. I may be wrong, I've cause to go chat to the local powder coaters as the A-frame on my current rib is Ali so I'll report back.
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We use powder coat on offshore equipment & it lasts far better than any paint system we have tried
Even on gear going subsea
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17 February 2015, 10:05
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Etch and paint it easier to maintain, once you get a bubble in the powdercoat you'll be painting it anyway
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17 February 2015, 12:20
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Only you will be maintaining sooner with paint!
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17 February 2015, 21:21
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Do what you want to do, you can't refinish it once it's powder coated, I'm only giving you my 45 years of working experience, your choice
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17 February 2015, 21:40
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+1 for etch & paint IMO powder coating is way over rated 1 small chip and it peels like a banana
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17 February 2015, 21:57
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Hi, first off thanks for all the replies and info one question whats the finish like on an etch & paint anyone got any examples they could share
jono
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17 February 2015, 22:12
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 this dash was etch and two pack paint finish
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18 February 2015, 01:10
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Wow that's a great finish thanks for showing
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18 February 2015, 05:58
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As biff been spraying for many years much more durable and repairable , powder when fooked needs stripping back,
All these items are ail
, balls are spun from sheets
Doors bonnet roof etc on 4 bee are ali
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19 February 2015, 03:24
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Aluminium Cabin respray
Jono- based on your other post I am guessing you bought the Sunrider zodiac??? I would suggest listening to guys like Biffer and RyanPratt. Although I do not know either one of them personally I can tell you I have never seen either one post bad advice and I have been working on inflatables for many years.
As many others can attest Ryan builds some of the sweetest ribs on this side of the pond. I am sure Biffer does the same.
Good luck with your project.
-Chris
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19 February 2015, 06:16
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Thanks for the vote, there are plenty of people that will piss on your bonfire, usually not intentionally, I try to be as helpful as I can, life can be hard enough without going down the wrong road, specially when you can't turn round, as with powdercoat
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