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Old 20 August 2018, 06:43   #51
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clearly no major damage has been done...
that is all the proof I need to never do it then
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Old 20 August 2018, 10:07   #52
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that is all the proof I need to never do it then


The new generation doesn't fry your brain & is nearly idiot proof, you'll be fine
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is nearly idiot proof
My condolences you can't use it
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My condolences you can't use it


Aye! That's the problem with claiming summat's "idiot proof", someone always comes along & proves you wrong.
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Well I'm certainly a radar idiot, I know feek all about them. AIS is plenty for the moment and reasonably cost effective. If you have a suitable plotter you can get a transponder for about 230 quid or a receiver for about 80 quid plus 50 quid for an AIS antenna give or take.
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Well I'm certainly a radar idiot, I know feek all about them. AIS is plenty for the moment and reasonably cost effective. If you have a suitable plotter you can get a transponder for about 230 quid or a receiver for about 80 quid plus 50 quid for an AIS antenna give or take.


I've had both radar & AIS, of the 2 I find AIS more use in day to day boating. I used the Radar 2 or 3 times in anger when I had it, at the time I wasn't confident enough in my abilities to trust what I was seeing. So we defaulted to the softly softly approach.
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For the cost you probably can't go wrong with AIS, it is whim purchase money for a receiver at least if you have a plotter (infact the boat beacon app is great for the money at 3 quid for live updates If you always have 2g plus on your mobile Or connect the AIS to your phone). Radar money is a bit more of a talking to the wife after spending a couple of quid on suspension seats last year.
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Well I'm certainly a radar idiot, I know feek all about them. AIS is plenty for the moment and reasonably cost effective. If you have a suitable plotter you can get a transponder for about 230 quid or a receiver for about 80 quid plus 50 quid for an AIS antenna give or take.


I've had both radar & AIS, of the 2 I find AIS more use in day to day boating. I used the Radar 2 or 3 times in anger when I had it, at the time I wasn't confident enough in my abilities to trust what I was seeing. So we defaulted to the softly softly approach.
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Yeh.

I've went down the AIS transponder route now. I got to thinking about the X-Band radar transponder and agree that you're relying on someone else to take action. (Although they might think you're a ferry from the strength of the echo.) but it's not going to give any "piece of mind" in fact it could have you fretting about a ferry that's 5 miles away and getting further.

I've already got one of the NASA AIS receiver/displays but it only does "north up" and the display is Cr@p, cluttered and very difficult to read so hoping the Matsutec will be better.
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I have 3 boats fitted with both radar and ais. If I had to choose one or the other I would fit ais. Radar gets used about 6 times a year in anger. Ais we use everyday to check progress and eta’s. The coastguard has asked me 3 times this year if I could have a look at things which has saved them sending out the rnli. Just waiting to see the first stolen boat to be recovered by ais, bet it happens soon!
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