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Old 18 August 2018, 15:15   #21
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...PS, it's worth the money, just for the name
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Old 18 August 2018, 15:54   #22
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Confession time, until a few months ago I didn't. But venturing down to Portugal this summer, a fog horn is a legal requirement (among other things) so I lashed out on the cheapest option I could find to comply. It's bloody brilliant, you wouldn't think that so much noise could come from something so small and cheap.
https://www.force4.co.uk/plastimo-mi...-fog-horn.html

PS, it's worth the money, just for the name
What end do you blow out to make a noise with it?
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Old 18 August 2018, 16:01   #23
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What end do you blow out to make a noise with it?
It probably doesn't matter so long as you're first to use it.
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A little trump..et.

Need a can of beans to signal for going astern
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I didn't say they were to do anything did I? The point is they had a BIG fancy boat, AIS and radar and didn't see us so do radar reflectors even work?, did they have radar on, collision avoidance setup....that was all I was getting at.
This is the bit that worried me the most - they're allowed to trawl in the fog. They possibly had even seen you. You're supposed to be going slow enough to avoid/spot them - not them you.
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By fact you are not reading an MAIB report you can safely assume we were going slow enough to spot/avoid

Anyways, in future if our 8 ball is wrong and we are caught in fog we are armed with AIS to help a little more, can't do any harm to have more info at hand.

But AIS, Radar etc doesn't change you should sail for the conditions, if that means displacement speeds then so be it. Getting home or another port safe is the only thing that matters.
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This is the bit that worried me the most - they're allowed to trawl in the fog. They possibly had even seen you. You're supposed to be going slow enough to avoid/spot them - not them you.
He wasn't trawling.... he was doing around twelve knots and dragging a couple of hundred meters of rope and something hanging from a buoy behind that. He was displaying neither the nose to nose cones nor the single upright cone for a 150+ mtr extended trawl (rule26)

We were going slow enough to avoid him...and we did.

Had we been stationary he WOULD have ran straight into us. It was 100% the action we took that prevented that.
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What end do you blow out to make a noise with it?


Oddly enough, you blow through the side.
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...but the fishing boat was dragging nets.
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He wasn't trawling.....
Ah, I see now. I took "dragging nets" for "trawling"...
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He wasn't trawling.... he was doing around twelve knots and dragging a couple of hundred meters of rope and something hanging from a buoy behind that. He was displaying neither the nose to nose cones nor the single upright cone for a 150+ mtr extended trawl (rule26)

We were going slow enough to avoid him...and we did.

Had we been stationary he WOULD have ran straight into us. It was 100% the action we took that prevented that.
Had it been a slower boat or someone else looking at a phone etc there 100% would have been a collision. I suspect when we went past someone was put on radar watch and subsequently we have both bought AIS now to help. Guaranteed good weather going forward ofcourse now

I wonder if we do show up on radar, I have had a reflector fitted since day boat was built but never seen what it looks like at other end of radar, i can probably test that though next time we are out LT....I'll get my old man onto the case on his old work boats.

Edit, just remembered the police at coulport told me last time they pulled me up there they could see me on radar when I asked, not sure they would ever admit to not seeing ofcourse
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