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Old 18 August 2018, 12:31   #11
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The radar reflector is ordered (it was cheap and can't do any harm) and my AIS transponder has arrived.

I follow the analogy with the bullets but I doubt the extra toys will cause complacency. There's something surreal and disorientating about fog that keeps you on your toes. Certainly some of the trips we've done this year couldn't have been contemplated without chart plotters, VHF etc and that maybe means we've pushed on when we might otherwise have turned back but keeping a sharp lookout is kind of motivated by fear.

I've had a few 10 to 20mtr "near-misses" with sailing boats, other ribs and fishing boats and that's ok....that's what happens in fog. We pass within 20mtrs of hundreds of boats but you remember the ones that appeared out of the fog and disappeared again just as quickly but I'd really rather not have a 20mtr "near-miss" with a P&O ferry and hopefully the AIS will give us the opportunity to keep well out of the road of anything that size.

Not radar but better than nothing.

PS I've canned the idea of an X-Band transponder for the mean time, as said it relys on others taking action and that's probably a forlorn hope.
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....I've had a few 10 to 20mtr "near-misses" with sailing boats, other ribs and fishing boats and that's ok....that's what happens in fog.....
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What else do you expect to happen? If you are travelling long distances and suddenly caught turning back poses the same danger as carrying on if you are in the middle of somewhere/nowhere.

I was with LT on a run back from campbeltown a few months ago and a fishing boat literally appeared out the fog VERY suddenly with maybe 75-100m of visibility. Obviously we were not going fast but the fishing boat was dragging nets and between boats the closing speed must have been in the 25-30mph region, they flashed their lights which we took to mean dragging nets or we wouldn't have known (we assumed they were anyway ofcourse) sure enough about 300m later we see an orange buoy being towed out the fog by a boat long gone. Fishing boat was coming directly at us so we had to split either side, close one. I do have radar reflector so either the fishing boat didn't see me on it or they were not looking at it but result was same either way.

I have got AIS sitting ready to install now but as I have 2 plotters that I can share data across I'm happy to put it on those rather than a separate unit As LT has done.

Radar ofcourse would be nice, maybe one day.
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Old 18 August 2018, 13:22   #14
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No "Beam me up Scotty" button, so you just have to deal with what comes out the fog. Plan is to miss it and that seems to be working.

There was life before radar.
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Obviously we were not going fast but the fishing boat was dragging nets and between boats the closing speed must have been in the 25-30mph region.......

.....I do have radar reflector so either the fishing boat didn't see me on it or they were not looking at it but result was same either way.
What were they do do? They are trawling at no more than 5mph? Makes you 25mph - 10mph+ too fast if the viz was that bad.
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Ain't no way they were going 5mph. I was doing 17mph to be exact which is as slow as I can go on plane and I figured they were about 10-12mph. If i had to bet they were doing maybe slightly more going on their wake and how fast that orange marker went past.

I didn't say they were to do anything did I? The point is they had a BIG fancy boat, AIS and radar and didn't see us so do radar reflectors even work?, did they have radar on, collision avoidance setup....that was all I was getting at.
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If you're truly caught out, and, IMO you shouldn't be. At a minimum slow down to quiet displacement speed, as slow as you need to go to make your boat engine and wave splash as silent as possible. Stop if necessary. Listen out for other vessels and use your fog horn at the required intervals to warn other vessels of your presence. You do carry, or have fitted, a fog horn, don't you? Silly question, of course you do.
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...If you're truly caught out, and, IMO you shouldn't be......

Unfortunately we don't have a crystal balls. Presumably you're also equiped with that ?

We missed them.....plan worked.
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No "Beam me up Scotty" button
Radar/AIS is so yesterday, BMUS is the future for boating. One button press and bang, in Bahamas. Be ideal for the poor gits stuck boating on the forth.

Edit, a JW crystal ball is also a good shout. In light of those not existing for the rest of us I've ordered a magic 8 ball, we will give it a shake and go with it next time in fog. Or maybe buying a new outboard on what shaft length to get it would work.....

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You do carry, or have fitted, a fog horn, don't you? Silly question, of course you do.

Ofcourse we have horns but it is gone as soon as the crystal ball/magic 8 ball or BMUS arrives. Any other kit you want to presume we don't have?
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X-Band or AIS transponder ?

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......You do carry, or have fitted, a fog horn, don't you? Silly question, of course you do.


Confession time, until a few months ago I didn't. But venturing down to Portugal this summer, a fog horn is a legal requirement (among other things) so I lashed out on the cheapest option I could find to comply. It's bloody brilliant, you wouldn't think that so much noise could come from something so small and cheap.
https://www.force4.co.uk/plastimo-mi...-fog-horn.html

PS, it's worth the money, just for the name
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