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Old 14 November 2015, 08:42   #11
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Thanks Jepho I've bought the SH as it seemed like the general opinion was there wasn't much difference in quality & I can't see the point in paying a 50%premium for a different name that is going to get left in an open cockpit.
I had a sh cp1000 plotter In a previous boat & it failed well out of warranty so I sent it to yaesu for repair expecting to pay for it & they actually replaced it foc which I thought was good service

Yes, all my dealings with Yaesu Ken, for Ham radio (back in the day) were good experiences. I see no point in paying for a name unless it means a substantial difference in quality. My wife is from Japan and she tells me that Japanese companies (despite being in competition with each other) have such a large population to cover, that they share parts commonly and work very closely with each other.

I don't know anything about HiFi but I can remember when separate units were all the rage, that each of the manufactures had items which closely resembled those of the competition in specification and appearance. Common tooling is probably one of the reasons that they achieved economies of scale so easily.

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Old 14 November 2015, 10:28   #12
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Rule of thumb is fit the best you can afford, it may save your life.

Alternative in my opinion would be fit a half decent one but spend the saving on the aerial and connections, quality aerial 1m+ in height and use decent cable and gold connections done properly.
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Old 14 November 2015, 11:25   #13
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Rule of thumb is fit the best you can afford, it may save your life.

Alternative in my opinion would be fit a half decent one but spend the saving on the aerial and connections, quality aerial 1m+ in height and use decent cable and gold connections done properly.
Agreed... but only up to a point.

"half decent one" is a rather variable and indistinct standard which can mean anything or nothing to everyone else because we all have a different perception of precisely what the term 'half decent' means. Luckily, within the current context, beamishken had asked about the value of SH (Yaesu) compared to Icom.

In the world of Ham radio, you will find proponents of both the Icom and Yaesu brands but they will be clear that either manufacture will make something within their ranges to serve any need. They are both top quality manufacturers and the life saving abilities of either brand of kit are not in doubt.

In the days when I dabbled in Ham radio, either brand would be considered top drawer. e.g. Check out the attached image of the 6k HF base station from Yaesu. Any company producing this type of item will not be found wanting in any department when selling their own goods under another name.
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Agreed... but only up to a point.

"half decent one" is a rather variable and indistinct standard which can mean anything or nothing to everyone else because we all have a different perception of precisely what the term 'half decent' means. Luckily, within the current context, beamishken had asked about the value of SH (Yaesu) compared to Icom.

In the world of Ham radio, you will find proponents of both the Icom and Yaesu brands but they will be clear that either manufacture will make something within their ranges to serve any need. They are both top quality manufacturers and the life saving abilities of either brand of kit are not in doubt.

In the days when I dabbled in Ham radio, either brand would be considered top drawer. e.g. Check out the attached image of the 6k HF base station from Yaesu. Any company producing this type of item will not be found wanting in any department when selling their own goods under another name.
I agree, although I'm an Icom devotee, I've no reason to doubt the quality of SH, I think that this is a clear case of dearer is not necessarily "better". Boris has a valid point re. quality of antenna/cable/connections. You can spend as much as you like on the VHF, but it will only be as good as what it's connected to.
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It certainly wasn't about saving money, as has already been said you can't put a price on safety
Had the opinion been that the icom was 20% better then I'd have paid the extra 50% but as the general opinion is there is little difference then the SH won
I have Icom in my current hard boat &the previous one & I'm happy with it. I've had SH gear before & been happy with it but not a radio hence asking advice before buying cheaper
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Old 14 November 2015, 12:32   #16
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I agree, although I'm an Icom devotee, I've no reason to doubt the quality of SH, I think that this is a clear case of dearer is not necessarily "better". Boris has a valid point re. quality of antenna/cable/connections. You can spend as much as you like on the VHF, but it will only be as good as what it's connected to.
Indeed! I was just trying to illuminate the notion that 'half decent' was not a particularly useful standard (I was not wishing to criticise Boris personally) and the SH range of VHF TX/RX comes from one of the longest serving and highest quality manufacturers of radio kit.

This is a useful non-technical piece on marine VHF antenna.
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Having been using ham radio (2m VHF) for about thirty years - initially back in the times when it WAS the means of communication here before we had telephones - I can vouch for Yaesu as being as good as anything - apart from terminal physical damage, no Yaesu has ever let me down. And as stated Yaesu makes SH.

I don't think I'd fit anything else, but I'd happily fit either SH or Icom. I just happen to have a marginal preference for Icom, but my handheld is a SH HX270E which has been flawless.
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Hi all. Also looking at an SH unit for Christmas present. 200 cdn for the GX1600 model. A couple questions?

Flush mounted in open console should I expect it to die due to water or do these water proof ratings mean they can actually be exposed to rain?
I have a 5.9 meter Highfield. I assume putting antenna onto radar arch would give decent range from the height and safe distance from boat passengers? Not sure what's a useful practical guide to 'safe distance' from antennas.

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Radar arch is where we all put them Neil highest place.
I p rating means it is designed to get wet, on the hand held they can stand 30 mins at 1 m submerged that's no to say they don't fail but the opinion from most is SH & icom are the best.

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