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Old 11 October 2016, 07:23   #21
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Yep...Reflectors COMPLETE waste of time (on a Low profile craft like a RIB)


That's WHY they fit reflectors on them - not generally needed on oil tankers!
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That's WHY they fit reflectors on them - not generally needed on oil tankers!
And Just how MANY RIB's been mowed down by Merchant vessels lately??
That's With and without Radar reflectors!?...Waste of time!...
There's one of Google Boy
When it's rough your in troughs a lot of the time....(below Sea level) when it's not....it's flat and you should have good vis...and other stuff is very easy to avoid in a fast Power Boat..and give a wide berth!..
on the rare occasions when it's Foggy AND you're off shore in the lanes..(most pleasure Boaters don't venture out of sight of land) they're looking for much bigger slower moving vessels than the average size nimble fast moving RIB...and do you really reckon IF they (a large container vessel or Tanker/Merchantman) DID Actully happen to see a VERY faint and intermittent blip...from a Biscuit tin sized bit of metal pitching about little more than 1m above The Sea..they'd change course!!!??...don't Kid Yerself!


Maybe the RAF could save a load of money not training to fly at low level...(it'd take an exceptional Pilot to fly lower than an A-frame!!)! (to avoid Radar) or maybe the multi million pound military defence Radar systems aren't up to the standard of civilian kit carried on old Chanell chuggers...and the civilian/merchant operators are much more vigilant??
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Not so sure about that !

https://mcanet.mcga.gov.uk/public/c4...es/Annex15.htm

If you regularly cruise in waters frequented by ferries and any other large vessels , it goes without saying that you stay out of their way . If I were " broken down" or otherwise stranded , I would like that extra bit of security.......

Some have even suggested carrying a roll of baking foil for such emergencies
That's why I mostly travel any distance in Company....have a VHF Radio and if things are Real Bad an EPRIB....BUT..if you'd rather trust a Metal Cake Tin stroll on
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And Just how MANY RIB's been mowed down by Merchant vessels lately??
That's With and without Radar reflectors!?...Waste of time!...
There's one of Google Boy
I don't understand your brand of logic. Small boats have been known to be mowed down by big/ger boats - and a Radar Reflector can only be said to be a waste of time if you're sure that no collisions have been avoided because one was fitted. And Google Boy?
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When it's rough your in troughs a lot of the time....(below Sea level)
I'm fairly sure you'll find that half the time you're in troughs and half the time you're on crests
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on the rare occasions when it's Foggy AND you're off shore in the lanes..
It's foggy or VERY rainy quite a bit where I am and I'm not a fair weather boater. I wouldn't feel I had to be in a sealane to be at risk of collision
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.from a Biscuit tin sized bit of metal pitching about little more than 1m above The Sea..they'd change course!!!??
You DO realise that radar reflectors have a much bigger radar profile than a biscuit tin? They're non-Stealth technology

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Maybe the RAF could save a load of money not training to fly at low level...(it'd take an exceptional Pilot to fly lower than an A-frame!!)! (to avoid Radar) or maybe the multi million pound military defence Radar systems aren't up to the standard of civilian kit carried on old Chanell chuggers...and the civilian/merchant operators are much more vigilant??
Sorry - I don't understand that bit

I don't generally get too worked up about advice given on RIBnet as I think people are grown up enough to work it out for themselves. However, I feel that advising against a radar reflector on a RIB is a poor enough show. Like it or not, every vessel capable of mounting a reflector is supposed to have one:

https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles...pleasure-craft
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That's why I mostly travel any distance in Company....
Uh-huh. Bern and meself travel solo a fair bit, so we have to be self reliant...
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Uh-huh. Bern and meself travel solo a fair bit, so we have to be self reliant...
Me too. I think he's an armchair ribber myself. Or stupid!

What often surprises me is how frequently one is on one's own, sees a vessel in the distance on a crossing heading and you both end up needing the same bit of water, miles from shore!! It's spooky!

In poor visibility, if you don't have radar and the other vessel isn't showing AIS to you, your only hope of being seen is your radar return.
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That's why I mostly travel any distance in Company....have a VHF Radio and if things are Real Bad an EPRIB....BUT..if you'd rather trust a Metal Cake Tin stroll on
Even if you wave them above your head its very unlikely Epirb and vhf set will achieve a good radar return.
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