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Old 18 January 2006, 16:12   #21
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ok

what really irritated me was your personal launch at me.
what really fucks me off with traders is they think they know everything, and 50% of the time they dont

it is interesting the pms you get when someone like you posts a post like that!

i talk to as many experts as i can and then i form my own opinion unless i believe the source is indeed an expert beyond question.
time to do your homework i guess, how many boat builders or boat assemblers use tinned wire? I have checked around, have you? and dont forget some will say they do when actually they dont!

if you had send a pm stating your case in grown up terms then i would have quite happily changed my occupation based on a sensible request.

you made it personal and immature and showed what an asshole you must be in my opinion.

did tony's post upset you then?

i suspect you had been on the sherbert last night based on spelling and grammar so why dont you post a nice post appologising for your personal outburst?

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Firstly I don't give a flyer what people think of me never have never will unless I have respect for them and you don't fall into that categaory.

wanna swap PM's for the people congratulting me on the way I dealt with you!

Is that nicey nicey enough!
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Old 18 January 2006, 16:27   #22
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I guess the respect goes both ways and i suspect over time you have built up a resistance to what people think of you which is why you take the stance you do.

all this fuss you have made over advising that i should use tinned wire and if i dont then it is wrong. Sorry but dont agree. If i see a degredation of the wire i will replace it simple as that.

if i find any of the wiring is knackered within a short period of time i will replace it and would be the first to declare it. So you can sit in the sidelines and tell me you told me so at some time in the future, I guess the question will be how long into the future that will be.

my reference to traders is ones that give you duff advice or advice based on wanting to sell you something specific that they have. ie some twerp on a boat show stand telling me an opti 200 on WOT would use 20 odd litres per hour of fuel....i wish. That is why ribnet can be so good cos you get a better level of advice and guidance on the whole.

enough said i think and now back to the job in hand of boatbuilding in the eves
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Old 18 January 2006, 16:37   #23
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I guess the respect goes both ways and i suspect over time you have built up a resistance to what people think of you which is why you take the stance you do.
Not quite sure what this means?....... Stu and I have our "ups'n downs" ..on this board and in the "real world"...and we'll never agree on some things.... but I'll tell you..and anyone else who can be bothered to read this garbage.. straight.... I have a huge amount of respect for Stu... there are not many people I have confidence in, but Stu is one of those.... he may be a ham-fisted, destructive fecka' at times... but if the shit hits the fan..... I want him on my boat.... and his keyboard skills are down to the size of those bananas he calls fingers..... he is right though... for the cost difference.. putting fully tinned "marine grade" cable in is worth it's weight in Gold... versus trying to remove and replace a corroded piece of automotive cable... I know.. I've had to replace some cables on a boat less than two years old... and 'cause of the way it's routed.. it's a feckin' nightmare...

P.S... you're right about boat builders not using the right stuff... but that doesn't mean we shouldn't.....
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Old 18 January 2006, 16:48   #24
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Pre-tinned wire is quite/very expensive,
What a nob, if you think 5.00 for a 30 metre roll of tinned wire is expensive, you need to get out of boating cos you've got a real shock coming!
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Old 18 January 2006, 16:52   #25
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well here is the plan for the cable, i will cut into a piece every 6 months to look for corrosion and if i find any i will replace the lot, its not actually that big a deal anyway to replace.

if i find corrosion i will post it straight away and let folks know. but i am tinning the wire for a good 2 inchs on the ends and crimping and soldering the connections as well so i expect it to last a good time longer than just crimping it.

all inline connections are heat shrinked as well

stu is probably a very nice guy as are a lot of folks on here so cant comment on him except what he wrote

time will tell eh?
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if you can tell me where i can get it that cheap i will order some tomorrow, i need twin core 8.75 amp cable and twin core 20amp cable

i was quoted 60 quid plus vat for each 30m of 8 amp stuff
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What a nob, if you think 5.00 for a 30 metre roll of tinned wire is expensive, you need to get out of boating cos you've got a real shock coming!
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Old 18 January 2006, 17:33   #27
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That's because your'e an end user and Dirks in the trade
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That's because your'e an end user and Dirks in the trade
True, but Aquafax at the Hamble will sell to any old chump, even a rib owner!
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[(PM to Hugh).....it is interesting the pms you get when someone like you posts a post like that!]

......wanna swap PM's for the people congratulting me on the way I dealt with you!
Why don't all you PMers stop hiding and contribute constructively to the thread?
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