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Old 29 March 2008, 12:57   #11
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I am not sure exactly why they are moving to VHF in their circumstances.
I guess there are some advantages of VHFs though:
  • more readily available in waterproof models
  • if fixed instalation then no one can accidentally take it home/leave it off the boat
  • if fixed instalation, the batteries don't die in the middle of the day because no one charged it (assuming the engine/battery etc is working)
However about 15 years ago I seem to remember our club (sailing on inland water) being required by the RYA to have VHF radios... my memory is vague but I thought the interpretation at the time was they had to be marine VHF; although PMR wasn't available then - and it is possible that people were misinterpreting rules too.
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Old 30 March 2008, 05:59   #12
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Jon: Thanks for the offer, I'll ask and see what they are going for... I am afraid I think they are going for ICOMs though, sorry.

SeaSkills: Yes, PMR would have been my recommendation and indeed that's what they had before I think. I am not sure exactly why they are moving to VHF in their circumstances.

Once again, thanks to all for the input.
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No worries, the club has money to burn then

IMHO I would avoide PMR446, why?
Not waterproof
Any man and his dog can buy them, not good for a safety role.
Most are no where near as hard wearing or the quality of a marine VHF.

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Old 30 March 2008, 06:54   #13
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No worries, the club has money to burn then :
I used to be involved in running the club, now I am not.. so I couldn't possibly comment on that


As for your comments on PMR446, I do generally agree - but there are some factors on the other side of the equation for some small clubs:

Waterproofing can be acheived with an Aquapac case for about 20, making a radio and case package cost around 50 - around half a vhf handheld I'd guess? The club in question already has a number of Aquapac cases.

You can indeed have trouble with interference from other users but modern radios are pretty good with their channel codes to help find clear channels.

The one point you make that I can't refute is their durability, there's no doubt in my mind that marine band vhf will last much longer.

Like most things, it comes down to money in the end... if you can afford vhf it's the best option.

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Dont quote me on this but I would have thought that Marine VHF was resricted to the marine environment.

Can you use marine VHF on a lake?
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Dont quote me on this but I would have thought that Marine VHF was resricted to the marine environment.

Can you use marine VHF on a lake?
Hi Doug,

Yes you can, I have advised a number of clubs to contact Ofcom and they now use marine VHF inland, mainly M1 and M2.
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IMHO I would avoide PMR446, why?
Not waterproof
Any man and his dog can buy them, not good for a safety role.
Most are no where near as hard wearing or the quality of a marine VHF.
Jon, I agree with all your reasoning, and marine VHF would be my choice too - but there are several pretty good waterproof PMRs about now (including, dare I say, Icom)

http://www.icomuk.co.uk/categoryRend...3510&cCID=5408
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Jon, I agree with all your reasoning, and marine VHF would be my choice too - but there are several pretty good waterproof PMRs about now (including, dare I say, Icom)

http://www.icomuk.co.uk/categoryRend...3510&cCID=5408
These are licenced PMR's and not the licence free option that we mean here.
Icom and us (under the Vertex Standard badge) have fully waterproof PMR units.
Also we both have a combined marine and PMR unit but again for use on licenced VHF PMR frequecies.

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